# Don't cut government then spit on charities and churches

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-cut-government-then-spit-on-charities-and-churches/462354>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 6, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-cut-government-then-spit-on-charities-and-churches/462354 "2008-09-06T16:36:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-cut-government-then-spit-on-charities-and-churches/462354/41 "2008-09-08T22:06:15Z")

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> [@FallenAngel](#):
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> Here’s the other side of the whole “community organizer” thing.
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> Red staters and middle class blue staters don’t know what a community organizer does because in those areas, they’re called “Congressman” or representatives. They’re the folks you go to when you have a problem the government might be able to help with.

Unsupported premise. Also, not even close to the definition of community organization.

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> However, if you live in a democratic area like Chicago with a machine so corrupt that real elections are impossible and the government exists only to line the pockets of contributors, you need a community organizer. They don’t replace the machine with anything better, nor do they want to. They work for and shill for the machine and, in return, they get the machine to toss the people they’re agitating for some scraps. This a) keeps the people in their “rightful” (according to party politics) place and b) makes them feel grateful for their machine’s boot on their collective chests.

You have no idea what community organizations do, do you? Let me tell you, you’re totally off base. Thanks for demonstating how uniformed right wingers view thos words, though.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-cut-government-then-spit-on-charities-and-churches/462354/42 "2008-09-08T22:11:02Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> Now why did the Right start attacking being a community organizer?
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> Oh yeah, when the Left slammed being a small-town mayor.
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> Carry on with your ranting.

It’s not just the left, Karl Rove was highly critical of the qualifications of smallish town mayors for the vice presidency when Tim Kaine was being considered by the Obama campaign. Check out this [hilarious Daily Show comparison](http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/2008/09/karl-rove-bitte.html) of his statements then and now.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-cut-government-then-spit-on-charities-and-churches/462354/43 "2008-09-09T05:01:09Z")

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> [@Waenara](#):
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> Did you read the comments on that blog? I’m not religious, but I loved this one:
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> > Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Now that would be an awesome bumper sticker.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-cut-government-then-spit-on-charities-and-churches/462354/44 "2008-09-09T21:35:04Z")

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By all means, go with the bumper sticker.

You know, it actually makes sense! Obama was a **failed** community organizer.

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> Obama was also troubled by his own experience in South Chicago, where he had failed to make any headway on the community’s central problem–the absence of jobs–and had been reduced to demanding repairs in public housing.

So he “died” to community organizing, then was reborn as an aspiring politician!

The article the quote is from even has a very appropriate title: [Creation myth](http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=2e0a7836-b897-4155-864c-25e791ff0f50)!

Hosanna Barack, filio Barack!

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