So not all blacks are bad, just all black preachers (and, admittedly, an occasional white one).
Gotcha. Okay, maybe Stomfront is a bit more overt in their racism, but the post is worthy of their boards.
"Don't discuss why religion is bad or problems in black churches in a thread called 'black atheism'"
I think that you are mistaking me for someone else. I’m not sure if I’ve ever said that, much less routinely.
No. I just assumed that tomndebb was saying to not say that black preachers were worse.
He might have been saying that. And, as i said already, i share some of your opinions about the problems of religion.
But it seemed to me that a discussion about the influence and the practices of black preachers should not be out of bounds in a thread about black atheism. It also seemed to me that the issue of black preachers and black churches was no more “off topic,” in a thread about black atheism, than your own blanket condemnations of religion.
You must be new here.
Yes, exactly.
Or are you claiming that somebody who posts that he hates the Pope is also saying he hates all white people? Or all men or all Germans or all senior citizens?
Oh, I agree; I was just explaining why I didn’t think his modding applied to what I said there.
It may well not be racist. I’ve come to learn on these Boards and elsewhere that there are things that I would not have taken for racism that actually are; the reverse could be true.
You know, I’ve run afoul of the lovely “say as much racist bullshit as you want, that’s fine, but don’t call people racist for saying it, that’s a personal attack” rule before. Defending Treyvon Martin and others. That might be the first hint that I’m not a racist, and that the attempt to conflate “black pastors” with “all black people” is an intellectually dishonest reach by someone who is really interested in defending bunko artists for whatever reason.
Of course, I could explain my posts further in the thread itself, but tomndebb has put a stop to that–it’s just gonna be one big “atheists equal racists” circlejerk where the mod has banned anyone from taking the opposing view.
Say what you will about Tomndebb’s moderation and posts, but he is probably the most responsive mod when getting called out in ATMB.
The above should not be construed as a shot at anyone else, I just wanted to give Tom some props.
Go back and read the posts I moderated. Neither one said anything about the nature of religion, per se, in the black community. Condescending Robot opened with a boilerplate “*of course, religion is bad, m’kay” *statement, then segued into a rant against black pastors as parasites. A position that his next post explicitly defended. Nothing about atheism, per se. Qin piped up with a one-liner claim that they, (presumably the pastors that CR attacked), were in the habit of defending and supporting criminals.
Neither of those posts, as submitted, have anything to do with atheism or the nature of belief in the black community.
In terms of general arguments, you are correct. However, in the case of OPs and hijacks, we have always had the role of pointing out when a post has no support provided. If one posts an OP that is all marigolds and fluffy bunnies without any facts to support the claims, we will close it or move the thread to MPSIMS. If one posts a scathing, mouth-foaming rant as an OP, we will close it or move it to The BBQ Pit. If the OP looks like an opinion poll with nothing really supporting the author’s views, we will move it to IMHO. If a poster attempts a hijack to an existing thread following any of those paths, we will tell them to provide arguments or open a new thread in the appropriate forum. Since I was telling them that they were not to continue their hijack, but I was not telling them that they had to go to a different forum, I thought it appropriate to mention that they needed more substance. Otherwise, if they chose to open a thread with the same unsupported claims, they would probably be upset when it was moved to The BBQ Pit as a rant.
I’m not sure of the target of your ire, here, but it does not actualy address anything I have posted. I have made no claim that you are racist and I have not forbidden you from participating in the thread in question. As you presented it, the issue of “black pastors are parasites” has no connection to the role of belief or the prevalence (or lack) or atheism in the black community. It was a hijack that I told you to take to its own thread.
That’s ridiculous on its face.
I’ve read them, more than once. Other people have quoted them in this very thread.
Your reasoning on this issue is still specious. It is also, however, clear that you have no intention of changing your mind, so i have nothing further to say on the matter that would be appropriate for this forum.
And yours appears to be absent.
An observation that can be equally made about you.
I have seen no actual argument presented to dispute my view of the situation; no one has provided me a reason to even consider a different viewpoint beyond saying “I/We don’t like the Mod’s action.”
This is simply an untruth. There have been reasons provided; the fact that you are not interested in considering them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Really? Someone posted a connection between black pastors being parasites and the black community being rigorously anti-atheist? I seem to have misplaced that post.
You have certainly failed to make any such connection.
Your obtuseness knows no bounds. I’m done with you.
Would that this were so. 
Lets face it, he’s had lots of practice.
Thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting the Second Rule of SMDB Club (as adapted from the Official Rules of Playing the Race Card)…the right people can say nigger; the wrong ones can’t.