# Don't fucking cut and paste my messages into someone else's journal, Mr. Svinlesha. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2003, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154 "2003-10-13T10:29:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/61 "2003-10-14T05:13:04Z")
**WWW** , welcome aboard. You have much to be proud of in the old man – underneath all that playful prose of his lies a keen mind and a good heart. Not that it should come as news to you, but as a member of The Loony Lefties Dad Cabal, we’re sworn to put in a good word for each other in the presence of progeny and/or ex-wives and girlfriends. And by the look of your first few offerings, I could see him being quite proud of you as well. And righfully so I might add. _pssst!..'luci, send CASH this time._ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/62 "2003-10-14T05:36:58Z")
So, what’s going to be his punishment for messing about with dad’s 'puter? I would recommend **against** making him stay in this weekend and washing it. **Weird With Words** , I own’t disagree with you about Lucy Liu, but, at the same time, [there’s nothing wrong with Emmylou, either](http://www.emmylou.nl/) (be sure you get your parents’ permissin before clicking on this link). ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/63 "2003-10-14T06:17:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > **As to recent revelations, I guess you could best regard me as a seminal influence. And having a bad heir day.** To anyone who may wonder why I’d be reluctant to present my lineage, I refer you to the above. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/64 "2003-10-14T06:21:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weird With Words \* > \*\*To anyone who may wonder why I’d be reluctant to present my lineage, I refer you to the above. \*\* Tell me you vote straight-ticket Republican… ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/65 "2003-10-14T06:52:02Z")
Welcome aboard, **Weird With Words**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/66 "2003-10-14T08:17:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\*Tell me you vote straight-ticket Republican… \*\* Actually, I vote straight-_jacket_ Republican, but only to piss’m off. You should see his reaction when I wear my leisure suit with the “Vote Gary Bauer” button on the front and the “My other SUV is a **BIGGER** SUV” bumpersticker on the back. He just lowers his head and whimpers like an ancient, heavy oak door slowly closing for the last time, as he remembers an age when the children really were our future. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/67 "2003-10-14T08:28:39Z")
Excellent! All good Republicans have leisure suits, which give lie to the Leftist claim that we are not ‘with it’ and ‘cool’. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Svinlesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@Mr.Svinlesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Svinlesha)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/68 "2003-10-14T12:28:38Z")
**Sam** : > [@](#): > > - My problem with this place of late is that debates are rarely like this. There are a number of posters around here who spend their time not engaging in honest debate, but prowling the forum looking for people they dislike that they can dive-bomb and take cheap shots at. I think we all know who they are. Their first instinct is to go personal, and even when a debate does end in a concession from one side, they can’t resist popping in to saying things like, “Wow, you ripped him a new one BUT GOOD! It’s about time someone showed him how stupid he is.” > > Needless to say, this behaviour has a chilling effect on honest debate. It causes both sides to lock down and refuse to give an inch. It raises the heat-to-light ratio. it turns the place into just another partisan piss-fest, in a world way too full of them…. > > But that’s probably too much to hope for. These are tendentious times. Partisan sniping seems to have become the normal mode of discourse. Everyone’s backed into their corners, and the knives are out. I guess I’ll just have to live with it.\* Yeah, I’ve definitely noticed that as well. Living abroad I don’t really have any first-hand insight into how things are actually playing out in the States, but from my vantage point up here on the tip of the iceberg it looks like y’all are having some kind of weirdo meltdown over there. The entire political discourse seems to have collapsed into a post-modern feeding frenzy. There has always been an undercurrent of bad feeling and distrust between Republicans and Democrats, at least in public, but I sure don’t remember it being like this back when I was growing up. I understand your sense of resignation as well. It’s not my intention to lay blame at your doorstep in that manner. But on the other hand, in such an atmosphere one might hesitate to wander about with a “kick-me” sign taped to his keester. Not to belabor the point, but let me give you an example. You complain (quite rightly) that “_The problem is that there is damned little respect around here anymore for one’s opponents._” Fair enough. But then you follow this up in your next post with the observation that: > [@](#): > > - Come to think of it, there’s not much I DO like [about Bush]. As I’ve said before, if I were an American, the only thing that would get me to vote for Bush is the fact that the **Democratic opposition is so freaking pathetic.** \* Well, let’s just say for the sake of argument that I happen to be a big supporter of Dean’s candidacy. Congrats, **Sam** , you’ve just slipped me an underhanded insult and I haven’t even engaged you on the issue. And in what sense does the above statement show any sort of respect for _your_ political opponents? **Weird** : > [@](#): > > - BTW, you just FUBARed the majority of nobility you’ve gained here. Not that you’re incorrect, quite the opposite. But, to take a page from The High Road: For Evil Geniuses, the best tack to take would have been to just let this thread drop… As it stands, you’ve just watered down your apology with criticism – albeit delicate – when there was quite possibly nothing to be gained in terms of your image. Oh well, you’ll learn. We can’t all becomes evil geniuses of real politick over night.\* Oh, damn. And here I was posting all of this solely in the hopes of getting into your good graces. > [@](#): > > - Shit. Time for me to fess up. I knew the day would come, just didn’t think it would be today. I wanted to drag it out a bit longer, see if anybody would make the connection on their own, and it looked like **Libertarian** was just about to, but I guess now I’ll never know… > > People, there has been a mistake. **Elucidator’s** latest post, the one referring to **Sam’s** partisanship (or, as I see now, my misconception of his partisanship), was actually my post. > > [gasp from the audience]But how could that be?! > > Because, [dramatic pause] I’m his son.\* Oh…my…God. You mean, it’s…_reproducing!?!_ Arrrrrrgh! Everybody, run for your lives! Head for the hills! **elucidator** : > [@](#): > > - As to recent revelations, I guess you could best regard me as a seminal influence. And having a bad heir day.\* Uhhhhhhgh. Gurglllglge gurrlggle suuuuuck. The word “bad” doesn’t contain enough badness to express how bad those were. They were so bad that, if you were to take all their badness and lay it end to end, it would stretch to the universe… …and fill up the black hole in space. **Weird** (again): > [@](#): > > - To anyone who may wonder why I’d be reluctant to present my lineage, I refer you to the above.\* I feel your pain. But it’s a real pleasure to meet ya. And always remember – leisure suits are too hip to besquare. Just a little fashion advice from your friendly neighborhood **Svinlesha**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/69 "2003-10-14T17:18:02Z")
> [@](#): > > …and fill up the black hole in space. Let’s see Jordi try to explain _that_ one. P.S. Doncha love how we just turned a pit thread into an elbow-rubbing thread? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/70 "2003-10-15T03:14:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weird With Words \* > **Shit. Time for me to fess up. I knew the day would come, just didn’t think it would be today. I wanted to drag it out a bit longer, see if anybody would make the connection on their own, and it looked like Libertarian was just about to, but I guess now I’ll never know…** In other words, you wanted to drag it out until you got caught. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/71 "2003-10-15T04:22:06Z")
**Weird With Words** , meet **milroyj**. As you probably have already discerned, **milroyj** is not exactly the sharpest pencil in the box. **milroyj** , what do you mean, “got caught?” Are you implying that **Weird With Words** has been engaged in some sort of sock puppetry, or other violation of Board rules? What’s your fucking point, you moron? ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/72 "2003-10-15T04:41:35Z")
Yeah **milroyj** , that’s exactly what I wanted. Because as we all found out, I’m a fuckhead sockpuppet and should get banned. Fuck you very much. Lemme just ask you this, if that were my intention, why would I have announced it to everyone above? Nobody had even noticed that **elucidator’s** post was actually mine. Why would I have given up my clever ruse at that time, if my intentions were so bad? Fuck you again. Oh yeah, and what’s this “caught” bullshit? What was there to catch me at? Being my father’s son? I said, quite truthfully, that I was curious to see if anyone would notice the similarity between my writing style and my dad’s, without the connection being drawn for them. I intend to be a writer when my aspirations are completed, so such things matter to me. Triple fuck you. And tell me, when you found out my dad had been banned, did you do a little jig? Are you keeping score? Did you make a mark next to my dad’s name, which is just below **Collounsbury’s** name and across from **december’s**? Did you shout out something along the lines of “Woohoo! Two-to-one, baby! Gooooo **PUBBIES!!!** ” Quadruple-dipple-mega fuck you. You know what’s funny though? The moment I saw that you had revived a day old thread, I just **knew** it was to make a drive-by sniping. At me. And I was right. Well, in the words of the great Oscar Wilde, “Bring it on, bitch.” ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/73 "2003-10-15T04:50:21Z")
And now I see that before I could even react, **Early** was on top of it. And with a shorter post no less. Short is good. > [@](#): > > milroyj is not exactly the sharpest pencil in the box. And any sharp edges are the jagged result of being snapped in two by the firm hands of reason. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/74 "2003-10-15T11:37:52Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by **Weird Wide Worlds** :_ > > And any sharp edges are the jagged result of being snapped in two by the firm hands of reason. Ouch. This may call for some recommended reading… Subject: Metaphor; see “stretching of” also related: lily, gilding, avoidance of [sub]Otherwise, good job, son-o-lucy![/sub] ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/75 "2003-10-15T15:17:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Weird With Words \* > And tell me, when you found out my dad had been banned, did you do a little jig? Banned? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/76 "2003-10-15T15:27:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*Banned? 😕 \*\* He got better. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/77 "2003-10-15T15:47:27Z")
Just a comment from the cheap seats: **Elucidator** is being outshone in rhetoric and wit by the sequel, **Weird With Words**. Seems to me **'Luci** could take some tips in writing style from his offspring. And **Milroyj** , you’re embarrassing the rest of the moderately conservative Dopers, so kindly stick a cork in it ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/78 "2003-10-15T15:55:13Z")
> [@](#): > > _Mr Svinlesha said_ > Yeah, I’ve definitely noticed that as well. Living abroad I don’t really have any first-hand insight into how things are actually playing out in the States… Just to correct a common misapprehension: **Sam** lives in Canada. In Alberta I believe so the mistake is easy to make. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_With\_Words](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weird_with_words/32/385_2.png) [@Weird\_With\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_With_Words)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/79 "2003-10-15T20:18:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > **Elucidator is being outshone in rhetoric and wit by the sequel, Weird With Words. Seems to me 'Lucicould take some tips in writing style from his offspring.** Woohoo! I giggle! I chortle! I give an awesome guffaw! My self-satisfaction blazes wih the heat of a billion suns! My spine sends twitchy joy to the dankest corners of my being! My happiness positively blubbers forth from my soul like a waterfall of effervescent delight! Happy, happy! Joy, joy! \ Thank you **gobear**. You’ve just made my day, and many days to come. I know that when people say this, they’re usually just saying this, but I really did just do a happy dance, complete with much thrusting of the pelvis. Now I can hardly wait for my dad to come home, flip on his computer monitor, and see your passage highlighted on the screen (and I **will** highlight it). Then, he’ll turn his head to see me standing there, fingers pointing at him, as I triumphantly declare with as much bass in my voice as I can muster: _ **WHO’S YO DADDY!?** _ ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154/80 "2003-10-16T00:14:32Z")
**Weird With Words** I only have one question. Now that this precedent has been set, how is the readership of the SDMB to know which posts from screenname **elucidator** are written by him, and which may have been inadvertently written by you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-fucking-cut-and-paste-my-messages-into-someone-elses-journal-mr-svinlesha/207154.md?page=5)