# Don't give a good goddamn if it's the Pit or not **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 28, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522 "2019-01-28T03:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/1 "2019-01-28T03:36:44Z")
> [@Huey Freeman](#): > > Damn, girl. At least I have a wife. At least I have a significant other. You, on the other hand, will remain alone and, eventually, die alone. You see, girlfriend, I’m not doped up on antidepressants nor do I have I spent over 6,900 hours on a fucking message board engaging in depressive behavior masquerading as an online “hobby”. Tell me, Guinastasia. How long have you been on anti-depressants? Who exactly are you behind the drug? Do you even know who you are behind the mask of SSRIs? You don’t even know who you are. You’ll never find a man because you’re emotionally needy, socially awkward, and bereft of intelligence beyond 9th grade. Because I kind of respect you as the one the senior cult-members here, let me give you a pro-tip. If you want a man, get yourself off the antidepressants, and see a psychologist to overcome your issues. Antidepressants and relationships don’t mix. See this and this. Good luck, because you’re going to need it your baggage. Your clock is running out. Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Pit or not, if this is acceptable within the community here, I want no part of this place. [link](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21453469&postcount=769) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/2 "2019-01-28T03:43:12Z")
Hear, hear. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/3 "2019-01-28T03:47:51Z")
I agree. Morgenstern went personal like this a few months ago, and while he wasn’t banned, he left the board (after driving off someone else), presumably recognizing he wasn’t welcome here anymore. Huey deserves IMO a single hard-and-fast wakeup on this issue, but only one. His excuses, his YOU BETTER NOT COME AT ME schtick, is not acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/4 "2019-01-28T03:56:27Z")
His hate filled rants are concerning. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/5 "2019-01-28T04:16:34Z")
I admittedly don’t spend much time there, but isn’t that the exact purpose of the Pit: to hurl caustic insults at people one dislikes? This sounds like the sort of rant that would be cheered by many here if it were only directed at the right target. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/6 "2019-01-28T04:21:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I admittedly don’t spend much time there, but isn’t that the exact purpose of the Pit: to hurl caustic insults at people one dislikes? This sounds like the sort of rant that would be cheered by many here if it were only directed at the right target. Yeah, you and yours are soooo put upon. People who are on medication prescribed by a doctor do not need to be harried about taking that medication. **Guinastasia** is a grown woman, strong and self-secure, who can look after herself. But there are lots and lots of people who are new to anti-depressants–who worry about taking them–who should not be harangued for taking what their doctor prescribes. Anybody who would do that is a goddamned troll, whether Conservative or Liberal, and they ought not be allowed into this community. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/7 "2019-01-28T04:27:57Z")
I don’t support anyone who is jerkish in their behavior. That it’s hate speech, there is no question. IMO. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/8 "2019-01-28T04:38:45Z")
Did you report the post? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/9 "2019-01-28T04:42:12Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Did you report the post? You betcha. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/10 "2019-01-28T05:01:19Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I admittedly don’t spend much time there, but isn’t that the exact purpose of the Pit: to hurl caustic insults at people one dislikes? This sounds like the sort of rant that would be cheered by many here if it were only directed at the right target. There is hurling inults and even more - but somethings go beyond the pale - had they been directed at “the right target” it would still be out of line. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/11 "2019-01-28T05:21:57Z")
OK, I insist. > [@What the fuck is wrong with Huey Freeman?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/448): > > 1. Insist the staff to declare that making fun of special needs persons against the rules > 2. Insist the staff to declare that making fun of individuals with mental illness is against the rules. > 3. Insist the staff declare using the words “hoe”, “thot”, “monster”, and “vulture” as misongynist, abelist, racist, and/or otherwise against the rules. > 4. Insist the staff ban me from making certain statements or arguments > 5. Insist the staff that I am an existential threat to the well-being of the forum and encourage the staff ban me entirely from the forum. > 6. Insist the staff report my presence to the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies > 7. Demand that the staff investigate whether I am “crowd sharing” my account with other people. > 8. Insist the staff investigate - using whatever means possible - whether I am a sock of a past or present SDMB member. > 9. Insist the staff prevent me declaring your message board as a “white space”. > 10. Insist the staff broaden the definition of hate speech specifically include “anti-white” speech. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/12 "2019-01-28T05:37:40Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I don’t support anyone who is jerkish in their behavior. … That’s what the Pit _IS_. Many / perhaps most of the posts there are “jerkish in their behavior”. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > … That it’s hate speech, there is no question. IMO. “hate speech” usually seems to have an amorphous definition that amounts to “whatever I don’t like” where “I” is the person making accusations of “hate speech”. Do you work from a more concrete definition? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/13 "2019-01-28T05:39:08Z")
> [@simster](#): > > There is hurling inults and even more - but somethings go beyond the pale - had they been directed at “the right target” it would still be out of line. I’m glad to hear you say that, but what sort of things are “beyond the pale”, in your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/14 "2019-01-28T05:44:08Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > That’s what the Pit _IS_. Many / perhaps most of the posts there are “jerkish in their behavior”. I’m not **Beckdawrek** , but I’m fine with jerkishness in the Pit. I’ve played that game myself. What I can’t put up with is trolling, not even in the Pit. Your boy’s a troll, so I’d distance myself from him if I were you. You have some shreds of credibility left. Use the lifeboat. No point in going down with that ship. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/15 "2019-01-28T05:44:51Z")
Hate speech is just that, hate speech. It’s not hard to tell when it’s hate speech. A second grader can be taught how to tell what hate speech is. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/16 "2019-01-28T05:48:11Z")
Huey on occasion targets below the belt. I think he does that to reflect his beliefs that the racism here should also be considered below the belt. It’s performance art. It’s trending stale. Also rules are rules, though the limits in the Pit are not always bright. More work for the mod-loop I suppose. I disagree about the accusations of trolling though. I believe Huey is kidding on the square. I could be wrong of course. But I say evidence for trolling is currently insufficient. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/17 "2019-01-28T05:50:40Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Hate speech is just that, hate speech. It’s not hard to tell when it’s hate speech. A second grader can be taught how to tell what hate speech is. Would that lesson go beyond “hate speech is just that, hate speech”? Are you always this ambiguous with second graders? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/18 "2019-01-28T05:51:54Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > … Your boy’s a troll, so I’d distance myself from him if I were you. … **LMAO** at the idea that you think **Huey** is “my boy”. (One of) The funny part(s) is that I agree with most of what you posted about him, I just find that the pearl-clutching leaves a bad taste in my mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/19 "2019-01-28T05:51:54Z")
FWIW, since I was the one insulted, if he wants to use my illness against me, then that just shows his true colors, not mine. Going after family members of other posters though, should be off limits. I think there should be a rule against that. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522/20 "2019-01-28T05:51:58Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Huey on occasion targets below the belt. I think he does that to reflect his beliefs that the racism here should also be considered below the belt. It’s performance art. > > It’s trending stale. Also rules are rules, though the limits in the Pit are not always bright. More work for the mod-loop I suppose. I disagree about the accusations of trolling though. I believe Huey is kidding on the square. I could be wrong of course. But I say evidence for trolling is currently insufficient. This alone should cover it, IMHO: > [@What the fuck is wrong with Huey Freeman?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-fuck-is-wrong-with-huey-freeman/827427/448): > > 1. Insist the staff to declare that making fun of special needs persons against the rules > 2. Insist the staff to declare that making fun of individuals with mental illness is against the rules. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-give-a-good-goddamn-if-its-the-pit-or-not/828522.md?page=2)