# Don't hate me for this... I can't hold it in any more... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 9, 2001, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304 "2001-04-09T02:04:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ChiefScott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@ChiefScott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChiefScott)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2001, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/41 "2001-04-11T19:04:11Z")
Says **jarbaby** > [@](#): > > He’s a squid in a turtleneck. Hey!! I resemble that remark!! ---
**Author:** ![smegmum\_V](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@smegmum\_V](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smegmum_V)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2001, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/42 "2001-04-11T19:22:28Z")
The important thing to me is the scale. Star Wars presented us with this vast empire and said “this is the middle of the story. not the begining, not the end” that was an amazing revelation for a 6 year old that these heros and villains are just blips in that much long history. We cared about what the clone wars were long before we knew that the emporer knew lukes father _spoiler_ Darth Vader. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2001, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/43 "2001-04-11T19:50:55Z")
**Heathen!** Now, here’s a question. Did you expect anything different? Start a debate about the Beatles, and you’ll get the same reaction from them. I’m wondering what comes next. Hollywood has just about worn out the blockbuster/megamerchandising Borg Nation they create each summer for their movie of choice. Star Wars started the trend. It was a good movie, with great SFX for the day. Lucas waited 20 years before his next trilogy for technology to catch up to what he wanted to show. How many people have wanted to be a jedi knight? How many films owe their FX to Industrial Light and Magic? Where would the industry be without John Williams, who made the movie grand with great music? Star Wars is great, because it started a new trend in SF epic movies. 2001 was the pinnacle of the old cycle, with handmade FX. Star Wars started the new trend towards totally digital movie making. Sure, the plot is simple, the script might be a little odd in spots, and most people familiar with John Williams know about his recycling of musical themes. But so what? When the movie comes on, you forget about it and just enjoy the movie. It’s a simple story done well. ---
**Author:** ![DougC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@DougC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougC)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2001, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/44 "2001-04-11T22:55:32Z")
- - - Good God, I posted to a Star Wars thread. I feel _so_ geeked out right now, I can feel my pant legs shortening already. - MC ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2001, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/45 "2001-04-12T03:40:44Z")
There’s an easy solution to that, **MC**. Don’t wear any pants. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2001, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/46 "2001-04-12T06:54:51Z")
And let’s not forget that these movies made Lucas enough money to eventually give us theater rumbling THX sound. From a story telling viewpoint, Star Wars is also the first movie I can think of to have a truly integrated movie-spanning storyline instead of a more episodic “sequel” format. (Yeah, yeah, they’re split up into ‘episodes,’ but the story is _still_ more integrated than even, say, Indiana Jones.) ---
**Author:** ![DougC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@DougC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2001, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304/47 "2001-04-12T09:51:38Z")
- - - Sequels generally \*uck. The whole deal about the massive series of StarWarsesque films is just not interesting anymore -it has become a soap opera on steroids, with a dose of latex and a side order of digital imagery. It’s as if the marketing department stood over the writers with an ugly stick. Batman was _almost_ a great movie: in the end, after the Joker had been killed, Batman should have returned to the spot where his parents were killed, left the mask, and walked away. As in “not Batman anymore” because the whole reason for his being Batman was now gone, and the circle would have been complete. But noooo, instead they made a second movie with a homoerotic sidekick, set in a battle with a parade of rabid drag queens. (sigh) -And people ask me why I never go see movies anymore. - MC [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-hate-me-for-this-i-cant-hold-it-in-any-more/61304.md?page=2)