# don't like your shift? obvious thing to do - set fire to the plane... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707 "2008-05-18T01:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Vorpal\_Blade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9de0a6/32.png) [@Vorpal\_Blade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vorpal_Blade)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/101 "2008-05-21T17:58:05Z")
_Holy fuck_ what was he THINKING??? _Thinking?_ ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/102 "2008-07-06T08:53:18Z")
An update: the (former) flight attendant goes on trial later this month in federal court in North Dakota: [Flight attendant faces trial for plane fire](http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=7a02a961-e3ec-454c-a557-3fb128977f7a). The article contains one interesting new tidbit of info: this was the second time there was a fire on a flight he was crewing :eek: > [@](#): > > Assistant U.S. Attorney Keith Reisenauer said Rojas was also working on a flight where there was a fire just two weeks before the incident on Flight 2040. In that case, the plane had to make an emergency landing in Wisconsin. > > Rojas is not currently facing any charges in that fire, which remains under investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/103 "2008-07-06T15:21:23Z")
Imagine that. What are the odds? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/104 "2008-07-07T19:54:50Z")
[QUOTE=robby] The plane stopped, and these paramedic/cops came rushing on board. They were wearing latex gloves, carried paramedic scissors, stethoscopes, and medical kits, but also were armed and carried handcuffs. :dubious: They were ready for anything, I guess. The passenger was off and in the ambulance within a minute or two after landing. [/QUOTE] If its anything like here in Fresno, the Airport Fire crews are combination police officers and Firefighter/EMT’s. On a day to day basis you would see them looking more like police than fire crews. They also help intervene in alot of this type of scenario since there are a metric buttload of things to know about working on the ground in an airport without making a bigger problem (I should do a “Ask the guy what has unloaded millitary medical air transfers in civilian ambulances” :eek: ). Sometimes civilian ambulances will come up to a ground access area and the airport guys will bring the patient out to them unless there is a situation like a crash where the area of the airport involved will be pretty much shut down until its cleared and you have lots of patients to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/105 "2008-07-08T00:09:01Z")
[QUOTE=Broomstick] _Holy fuck_ what was he THINKING??? [/QUOTE] I believe the operative piece of information is that he is 19 years old. He _wasn’t_ thinking. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/106 "2008-07-08T00:14:12Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] I believe the operative piece of information is that he is 19 years old. He _wasn’t_ thinking. [/QUOTE] Hell, I didn’t think at all when I was nineteen. ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/107 "2008-07-08T01:26:13Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] I believe the operative piece of information is that he is 19 years old. He _wasn’t_ thinking. [/QUOTE] Um, no. I don’t know if you were being serious or not, but some of our best people are in the 18-21 age group. I believe the operative piece of information is that he must be batshit insane. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/108 "2008-07-08T01:28:44Z")
[QUOTE=atomicbadgerrace] I believe the operative piece of information is that he must be batshit insane. [/QUOTE] Hey, hey! I’ve got batshit insane patients who know enough to not do something like that! Outrageous behavior does not equal insanity! ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/109 "2008-07-08T01:31:49Z")
[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan] Hey, hey! I’ve got batshit insane patients who know enough to not do something like that! [/QUOTE] Yeah, but they have experience at being batshit insane. This guy is obviously a stone cold n00b. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/110 "2008-07-08T01:32:54Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] I believe the operative piece of information is that he is 19 years old. He _wasn’t_ thinking. [/QUOTE] Oh, bullshit. Let me repeat that, with emphasis: buuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit. The vast majority of 19-year-olds manage to dislike their jobs without lighting them on fire or otherwise jeopardizing the lives of others. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/111 "2008-07-08T01:42:39Z")
[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan] Hey, hey! I’ve got batshit insane patients who know enough to not do something like that! Outrageous behavior does not equal insanity! [/QUOTE] Thank you! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/112 "2008-07-08T02:18:00Z")
If nineteen year olds are that incapable of thought, maybe we should press to repeal the [26th Amendment](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) ---
**Author:** ![Reepicheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Reepicheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reepicheep)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/113 "2008-07-08T14:59:45Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Yeah, but they have experience at being batshit insane. This guy is obviously a stone cold n00b. [/QUOTE] Not if he had anything to do with the _other_ fire that **Northern Piper** told us about. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/114 "2008-09-06T11:45:18Z")
The saga continues: the accused has skipped out on his trial; Federal Court issues bench warrant; may be en route for Mexico. Story here: [Flight attendant may be en route to Mexico](http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/story.html?id=df153c8b-0ccd-40c2-a96c-d25027ded378). > [@](#): > > Just days before Eder Rojas was to stand trial for setting a fire on a plane bound for Regina, the former flight attendant has flown the coop. > > “Mr. Rojas decided sometime in the wee hours of the morning this morning that he wanted to leave our fair community and he took off from his halfway house placement,” assistant U.S. attorney Brett Shasky confirmed Friday. > > … > > The trial had been set to begin on Monday, and Rojas was expected to appear in court for pre-trial discussions Friday morning. Instead, a warrant has been issued for Rojas’s arrest. Shasky said the warrant will go into a national database, and noted that the U.S. Marshal Service and the FBI are making it “a very high priority” to find Rojas while the trail is still warm. Fargo defence attorney Steven Light said he had been having little success with Rojas even before this latest setback. > > “At this time my client has been refusing to speak with me, has been very unreceptive to my advice and counsel on the case, and I’m under the impression from speaking with his father that I will no longer be his attorney,” Light said, adding he remains the lawyer on record for Rojas. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/115 "2008-09-06T12:02:48Z")
This is shaping up into the plot for a fantastic one-star comedy starring David Spade as the flight attendant. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/116 "2008-09-06T12:35:13Z")
He last logged into his [MySpace page](http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=180399818) on Tuesday. His mood? “Hopeful.” ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/117 "2008-09-06T21:12:32Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > It worked perfectly. He’s no longer flying that shift. Kinda lacks repeatability don’t you think.? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/118 "2011-08-06T14:53:45Z")
Further update: [Fugitive Flight Attendant Flagged; Forwarded to Fargo for Further Fun](http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Fugitive+flight+attendant+accused+setting+fire+Regina+bound+plane+arrested/5211577/story.html) > [@](#): > > REGINA – A young flight attendant accused of starting a fire aboard an airliner flying between Minneapolis-St. Paul and Regina in May 2008 has been returned to the U.S. from Mexico to face a trial over the incident. > > Eder Haron Rojas had been at large since September 2008, when he failed to appear for a hearing on a charge of setting a firm aboard an aircraft. > > Dan Orr, chief deputy U.S. Marshal for North Dakota, confirmed Friday afternoon that Rojas was returned to Fargo this week from Mexico, from which he was extradited after being arrested March 26. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/119 "2011-08-06T15:49:39Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Hey, hey! I’ve got batshit insane patients who know enough to not do something like that! > > Outrageous behavior does not equal insanity! Hey, twenty years in prison or a night in Regina, SK? I’m thinking, I’m thinking! ---
**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707/120 "2011-08-06T16:16:35Z")
> [@OtakuLoki](#): > > The real tragedy is that schizophrenia is one of the conditions that may respond to anti-psychotic medications. So, taking some pills with one’s vitamins may be able to keep Joe Late-developing-schizophrenia on an even keel, and give him some rest from the voices that have started to steal his peace of mind. From the problems a friend of mine had with his daughter, the problem is that the medications have some unpleasant side effects. His daughter had a tendency to stop taking her medications when she isn’t being monitored. I’d rather have an alcoholic than a schizophrenic as a coworker. I’ve known a few alcoholics that were pretty good employees as long as you didn’t need them on the weekends. It beats someone who might decide that their dog is telling them to kill you someday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-like-your-shift-obvious-thing-to-do-set-fire-to-the-plane/449707.md?page=7)