# Don't mess with The Ultimate Warrior!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [April 12, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915 "2005-04-12T03:18:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@ZeroGyro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZeroGyro)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/1 "2005-04-12T03:18:59Z")
One Rich Kyanka over at [Something Awful (might be NSFW)](http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2790) ran afoul of the dreaded AND streamered wrestling phenom known as the Ultimate Warrior and his fearsome “Director of Communications.” I don’t think I can encapsulate here the hilarity (and creepiness) of the as-yet-unresolved conflict, but I recommend you check out the site and Rich’s comments on his email exchange with the “Director of Communications.”
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### Author:  [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/2 "2005-04-12T03:28:30Z")
I love how people throw the word “libel” and “slander” around without really grasping what it means legally. And also how they want an apology.
It’s just. Wow.
Also, if you’re bored, SA has a whole section dedicated to the legal threats they’ve received and all the emails following. It’s great to see how people react to the insanity Lowtax and all throw at them. IIRC, the only threat which the site has actually backed down from was the Scientologists. And even then they just removed a picture of L. Ron Hubbard (or his likeness…I don’t really remember.).
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### Author:  [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/3 "2005-04-12T03:44:16Z")
Dang!
Thye should bring the Warrior back to the WWE as some sort of conserative heel character— with this crazy “manager” in tow. I just might start watching wrestling again.
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### Author:  [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/4 "2005-04-12T03:48:13Z")
Even the pubbies are embarrassed by him…
[http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/archives/2005/04/ultimate\_warrio.html](http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/archives/2005/04/ultimate_warrio.html)
> [@](#):
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> The group that brought Warrior in, the College Republicans, apologized heavily for bringing Warrior in after the speech ended. Statements that really got the crowd upset were when Warrior said “queering don’t make the world work” and told an Iranian girl to “get a towel.”
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### Author:  [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/5 "2005-04-12T12:09:27Z")
I was just browsing around, and I found what is being talked about here. Actually, I was considering starting a topic on it, till I say this. Reading over how progressively nutty and removed from reality the letters are (not to mention the fact they ARE from [mrwarrior@earthlink.net](mailto:mrwarrior@earthlink.net)) I am convinced Chris Lewis, Director of Communications, Ultimate Creations, Inc. and The Ultimate Warrior are in fact one and the same person. (Everyone else to Scott: “Welcome to last week!”
Looking around, it seems that the Ultimate Warriors is simply a title. 🙂 Jim Helwigs his real name. However, that does not stop him from using the pseudonym of Lewis. Anyway, I still can not believe the following:
> [@Chris Lewis](#):
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> You see, it is our position that you are taking the liberal position - claiming First Amendment protection for something that clearly goes beyond the scope of protected speech as envisioned by the Founding Fathers. The First Amendment should not and cannot be construed to defend violation of others’ intellectual property rights or to libel them (which is the case here) or to offend others’ sense of morality (which is the case with pornography, etc.).
Here, I believe the following hysterical misspelling are entirely warranted. WTF!1111111One!!!OMG!!! Teh Ult can travel thru tyme &talk to the founder phatherz!?!"!!!Mazing!!!
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### Author:  [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/6 "2005-04-12T12:22:14Z")
> [@Scott\_plaid](#):
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> Looking around, it seems that the Ultimate Warriors is simply a title. 🙂 Jim Helwigs his real name. However, that does not stop him from using the pseudonym of Lewis.
Actually, Ultimate Warrior is his real name. He had it legally changed a while ago.
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### Author:  [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/7 "2005-04-12T14:04:24Z")
When choosing his “stage name” (and now, apparently, his legal name), this fellow must have confused the definitions of “Warrior” and “Dumbass”.
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### Author:  [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/8 "2005-04-12T14:12:29Z")
I seem to recall DC comic’s badass \*\*Deathstroke the Terminator’s \*\* origins story had him tying a rope with streams hanging off onto his upper biceps and legs, for an outlandish look, designed to creep people out. Unlike the Warrior, it actually worked, in his case.
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### Author:  [@Egad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Egad)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-mess-with-the-ultimate-warrior/298915/9 "2005-04-12T14:31:19Z")
> [@Electronic Chaos](#):
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> IIRC, the only threat which the site has actually backed down from was the Scientologists. And even then they just removed a picture of L. Ron Hubbard (or his likeness…I don’t really remember.).
Actually he had to remove a pitcure of Jim Henson once too, although that event wasn’t so filled with drama. But yeah the legal threats section is great.