# Don't touch my baby! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2001, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860 "2001-11-12T03:45:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![pennylane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pennylane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pennylane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/61 "2001-11-13T15:54:12Z")
Sorry, I meant to say “had NOT experienced…” ---
**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/62 "2001-11-13T15:57:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ayesha \* > \*\*Hello ImChildFREE, Welcome to the straightdope. Now learn to read. Bubble girl in her op said \*\* "I finish changing her and walk over to wash my hands while my 11 year old stands right beside her stroller. \*\* In fact bubble girl never even said she used a changing table, not all parents do. > > A parent has every right to expect strangers to ask before touching their children. Especially a tiny baby who can’t say stop it. \*\* Oh okay … my bad … excuse me … but did she say the baby was actually IN the stroller … I mean if you want to get all technical and such. And there’s no need for you to get ugly you know … unless you just can’t help it … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/63 "2001-11-13T16:03:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > \*\*And there’s no need for you to get ugly you know … unless you just can’t help it … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* So…will **you** pay to post? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/64 "2001-11-13T16:04:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kinsey \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > > \*\* > > I have been up all night long worrying about my dog who has been sick … also it breaks my heart to see my husband ill … and I have love for him … this nonsense about “until you have a child you will never understand” is just that NONSENSE … anyone can FEEL emotion … parents just get upset when some don’t see things the same way as they do. \*\* > > Bullshit. It’s not “nonsense”. And since you **don’t** have kids, no, you won’t understand. The love for a pet or spouse or other family member…sure, we all feel that. My sister has MS; I feel sorry for her…My mother is showing signs of early-Alzheimer’s; I’m devastated…I’ve held dying dogs in my arms; it was heart-breaking. > But the love for your own child is just different. I don’t know how to explain it. It’s this fiercely protective mother-lion thing. It’s not that I love my kids **more** than other family members, it’s just **different**. \*\* Yeah just what I would expect to hear … you should put that on a shirt … “It’s a MOM thing you wouldn’t understand” … all I can say is THANKFULLY … Thank you for your insight and rational explaination of the love that you have for your child … I think I can pretty much write off any comments from a person who would just feel SORRY for their sibling with an illness … I would hope that COMPASSION and EMPATHY would come into play in there some place … but as I said … just what I would expect … ---
**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/65 "2001-11-13T16:06:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Anthracite \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > > \*\*And there’s no need for you to get ugly you know … unless you just can’t help it … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* > > So…will **you** pay to post? 😕 \*\* Pay to post??? Pay to post here? ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/66 "2001-11-13T16:08:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* Fuck you. Fuuuuuuuuuuck you. Oh yes, and the horse you rode in on. Did I mention you can fuck off? And then fuck off again? Ah yes, and don’t forget to fuck the fuck off when you are done with that. When you’re done fucking off, I suggest you (a) don’t bother sharing your little I-Read-It-In-The-Enquirer epertise about postpartum disorders with us, and (b) don’t blithely prescribe controlled substances as a fix. Goddamn, I’ll accept with a lot of “I don’t have kids, but I think I get thow you feel” empathy. There are plenty of intelligent Dopers on here whom I have absolute confidence when it comes to putting themselves in the shoes of other. I will not cheerfully stand for some idiot with a username like yours professing to have anything at all construtive to add about a new mother’s feelings, their relationship to postpartum blues, depression, and hormone swings, and the best way to treat them. Oh, before you go, please take this Hale’s guide and shove it up your ass sideways. Don’t know what Hale’s is? But of course you do! You’re prescribing drugs to new moms, you know it well! Have a nice Fuck Off on me! ---
**Author:** ![pennylane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pennylane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pennylane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/67 "2001-11-13T16:08:41Z")
**ImChildFREE** , you obviously don’t understand why it is that new parents turn suddenly into sappy idiotic morons, so maybe it is time to consider that you don’t know all there is to know about having children. One question: how does feeling sorry demonstrate a lack of compassion/empathy? I always thought they were kind of similiar… ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/68 "2001-11-13T16:10:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > \*\*Yeah just what I would expect to hear … you should put that on a shirt … “It’s a MOM thing you wouldn’t understand” … all I can say is THANKFULLY … \*\*Bite me. > [@](#): > > \*\*I think I can pretty much write off any comments from a person who would just feel SORRY for their sibling with an illness … I would hope that COMPASSION and EMPATHY would come into play in there some place … but as I said … just what I would expect … \*\* Yes, dumbass, I feel empathy and compassion. I was posting quickly, trying to get it in. I’m **sorry** it had to happen, how’s that? I’m **sorry** she has to give herself an injection every day. I’m **sorry** she lives in a third-floor apartment with no elevator. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/69 "2001-11-13T16:16:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*\*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > > … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* > > Fuck you. Fuuuuuuuuuuck you. Oh yes, and the horse you rode in on. > > Did I mention you can fuck off? And then fuck off again? Ah yes, and don’t forget to fuck the fuck off when you are done with that. > \ > Have a nice Fuck Off on me! \*\* Well, I was going to say that ImChildFREE’s comment was “totally uncalled for,” but Cranky said what I was really feeling. ---
**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/70 "2001-11-13T16:17:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > > … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* > > Fuck you. Fuuuuuuuuuuck you. Oh yes, and the horse you rode in on. > > Did I mention you can fuck off? And then fuck off again? Ah yes, and don’t forget to fuck the fuck off when you are done with that. > > When you’re done fucking off, I suggest you (a) don’t bother sharing your little I-Read-It-In-The-Enquirer epertise about postpartum disorders with us, and (b) don’t blithely prescribe controlled substances as a fix. Goddamn, I’ll accept with a lot of “I don’t have kids, but I think I get thow you feel” empathy. There are plenty of intelligent Dopers on here whom I have absolute confidence when it comes to putting themselves in the shoes of other. I will not cheerfully stand for some idiot with a username like yours professing to have anything at all construtive to add about a new mother’s feelings, their relationship to postpartum blues, depression, and hormone swings, and the best way to treat them. > > Oh, before you go, please take this Hale’s guide and shove it up your ass sideways. Don’t know what Hale’s is? But of course you do! You’re prescribing drugs to new moms, you know it well! > > Have a nice Fuck Off on me! \*\* What is WRONG with my name? Just as truthful as yours is it not. I am ChildFREE … Just like if someone came on with the user name ImaBlonde … would you be so defensive??? What do you know about me and whether or not I know about PPD … Paxil … or the hormone swings of a woman … and I don’t have a Hale’s guide to shove _anywhere_ but thanks for the offer _grins_ ---
**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/71 "2001-11-13T16:25:52Z")
Your foul language and bad attitudes toward anyone who doesn’t share your precious opinions was just what I expected. You allowed someone you don’t know to rile you up beyond even my wildest expectations and in record time … thanks so much … now seeing that I won the bet with my hubby that some of you would go off at one or more facets of my posts … I am off to a nice quiet CHILDFREE lunch on him … may even have dessert too since someone even took offense at my user name … hee hee And by the way … you may think that I am an idiot … but who was it that allowed themselves to get worked up by an idiot _evil grins_ … uh … um … wasn’t me. So what does that make you all … GULLIBLE would be my guess. ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/72 "2001-11-13T16:28:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > \*\* > > What do you know about me and whether or not I know about PPD … Paxil … or the hormone swings of a woman … > \*\* I am convinced that if you really knew much about PPD, motherhood, and the emotions of new mothers, you wouldn’t have ever made such an offhand comment to a new whom you you perceived to be overly cranky or protective. Utterly inappropriate on a number of levels. Not only is it insensitive, I also think it stigmatizes what I think is a totally normal reaction on the part of BubbleGirl. I also think it makes light of a very real and serious phenomenon. For all those reasons, your comment made me want to shove my Medela breast pump up your ass. Your name is only offensive to me in the context of your throwing out suggestions for new moms. I don’t care if you’re childfree and happy and about it. That’s super–I know many others like you and the sentiment itself is utterly understandable. However, your close identification with it (so much so that it’s your username on board that is not about parenting) at a time when “childfree” is becoming a political movement, AND (much more importantly) your posting flippant comments to a pit thread started by a new mom… well, I shouldn’t have to explain this. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/73 "2001-11-13T16:28:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Anthracite \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > > \*\*And there’s no need for you to get ugly you know … unless you just can’t help it … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* > > So…will **you** pay to post? 😕 \*\* 🙂 Thanks for the laugh ---
**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/74 "2001-11-13T16:31:20Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ayesha \* > \*\* :snip: And there’s no need for you to get ugly you know … unless you just can’t help it … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings. \*\* Get ugly ? Honey that was far from me getting ugly. If I wanted to get ugly with you there would be smoke rising from your ass due to the flames. I think it was damn ugly of you to say \*\* "I think I can pretty much write off any comments from a person who would just feel SORRY for their sibling with an illness … I would hope that COMPASSION and EMPATHY would come into play in there some place … but as I said … just what I would expect … \*\* to Kinsey I loved the new mom comment, yes I’m a new mom I have a beautiful baby that I take to DopeFests in Pubs with me. I throw her to other people, let waitress’ take her off to show her to the manager, cook or whoever else they want to show her to. She has been given cigarettes, beer, iced tea and knives as props when her picture was taken. She doesn’t mind and I don’t mind because she’s a doll. I do have a child, a real child. He will be 21 in a few days. I can tell you I would have gone off on anyone who I didn’t know that walked up and touched him when he was a baby, CrankyAsAnOldMan, thank you for saving me the time to tell this ummm, person to fuck off. ::walks away laughing:: She thinks I got ugly with her ! Wonder how long she has lurked in the pit ? ---
**Author:** ![pennylane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pennylane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pennylane)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/75 "2001-11-13T16:37:49Z")
Um… has **ImChildFREE** just admitted to being a troll? ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/76 "2001-11-13T16:40:02Z")
Enjoy that dessert. And go on believing that I am legitimately upset and I’ve called up all my Mommie friends and we’re going to burn you in effigy tonight because you’re just that important to me. Sometimes people (read: me) just enjoy going off on people who seemingly have no perspective, no restraint, and nothing useful to add besides evidence that they are utterly full of themselves. It feels damn good to say fuck since there are so few people on these boards who are ever clueless enough to waste the word on. BUT–If you want to pat yourself on the back for being an amusing, powerful person who has Riled Up The Boards Like They’ve Never Been Riled Up Before, Just As You Predicted When You Signed Up, well, go right on ahead. If you think I’ll be lying awake tonight seething over you, go ahead and believe that too. Ooops, sorry about that yawn, there. I’m trying hard to not look bored and instead look self-righteous and insulted and mad. I’d hate to ruin that Extra Special Lunch you’re going to have with your husband, talking about all of us that whooooooole time. Talk extra loud so the waiter and the booth next to you can also hear how cool you are, how your derring-do really riled up them there mesage board punks. Woo-hooo! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/77 "2001-11-13T16:48:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > \*\*Also what kind of idiot leaves their child on a changing table and walks away even if just for a moment??? HELLO … \*\* To quote someone elsewhere on this board… “reading comprehension is your friend” She left the kid IN HER STROLLER. She changed the kid IN HER STROLLER. She said she wouldn’t put her baby on the changing table period, let alone leave her there. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/78 "2001-11-13T16:52:46Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by ImChildFREE_ > **… I am off to a nice quiet CHILDFREE lunch on him …** Quick! Let’s all get our kids and go sit at the next table! We can let our kids run wild and scream and yell and throw food and straw wrappers and sugar packets at them. Maybe she’ll come back and start a thread about obnoxious parents in restaurants. “How dare they take their kids out in public?!” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/79 "2001-11-13T16:55:05Z")
DNFTT ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2001, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/80 "2001-11-13T16:55:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \* > \*\*I think I can pretty much write off any comments from a person who would just feel SORRY for their sibling with an illness … I would hope that COMPASSION and EMPATHY would come into play in there some place … but as I said … just what I would expect … \*\* Wow, at first I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you just made one stupid comment… but now it’s pretty obvious that you are, indeed, stupid. Since when does feeling sorry for someone completely exclusive of other emotions like compassion and empathy? You may be amazed to know that one can feel all of those _at the very same time_ ! Also, if someone were to list all the emotions they felt for their sister, I imagine the post would take up most of a page. Oh, and for your remark to someone about “getting ugly”… if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black I don’t know what is! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860.md?page=5)