# Don't touch my baby!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 12, 2001, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860 "2001-11-12T03:45:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/121 "2001-11-14T00:55:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sealemon88 \*  
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> > BubbleGirl … I apologize for inferring that you were an idiot for leaving for your child on a changing table if that was not the case, however I don’t apologize for the comment … people who walk away from their child and something happens have no business complaining.
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> Bubble Girl actually wrote that her 11 year old step sister was watching over Emily. She was not left alone. Not even for one second. The only reason the stranger got a chance to touch Emily was because Bubble Girl turned her back for a sec…her sister would have raised a ruckus if she had had time.
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> > While I am not the type to just coo over children / babies period. I can see where you would be upset … but going on and on just doesn’t seem necessary … seems overkill … tell the woman you were upset by it … wash the childs hands and let it go.
> 
> Yup. You’re absolutily right. Except that is just what she did, didn’t she? You might want to see about graduating into junior high before you try handling a written discussion. Until you do, you will remain Reading Noncomprehension’s Bitch.
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> > So I am a troll bfd … you will either get over it or take it with you to the grave and either way I am fine with that …
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> Being a troll on this board is a banable offense. You might want to read that sentence a few dozen more times reeeeealy slowly before you take another bet with your hubby.
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> While I’m at it, here’s a couple more things for you to try and comprehend:
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> Baby was not left alone.
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> Mommy said her piece once, then let it go.
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> Baby was not changed on a public changing table, or on the floor, or in a toilet, or in a bowl of raw pork.
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> Touching another person’s property or children without permission is wrong. Don’t do it. \*\*

The BET came AFTER … jeez talk about reading comprehension … oh and you thank you … you calling me a bitch is like Heidi Fleiss calling someone SLUT

Banned from here … okay I have been here one day and I am not seeing anything that I am going to miss so go right ahead … but I registered because I wanted to post a reply not because I bet my husband that most of you had it in for anyone with a difference of opinion.

Mom did not say her piece to touchy feely woman and let it go … otherwise she wouldn’t have posted here …

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**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/122 "2001-11-14T00:55:46Z")

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Bask in the cuteness that is [Emily!](http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1749619&a=13787383&f=0)

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**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/123 "2001-11-14T00:56:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
> \*\*I’m not sure how to break this to you, but _you’re not the only Doper to disagree with Bubblegirl_ about the OP. I realize that might crush your image of (a) all of us as sheep and (b) yourself as The Great Liberator of Free Thought on the boards.
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> Alas, it can’t be helped. \*\*

No but I am the only one you seem to have a fascination with … why is that???

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/124 "2001-11-14T01:01:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Screamergirl \*  
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> Now I’m calling bullshit.
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> I’ve never bore a child. I do, however, have three step-children that I am fiercely protective of - even moreso than their mother or father is.
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> You don’t have to HAVE one to understand the feeling.
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> Screamergirl \*\*

But I believe this point thas been made, by OpalCat for one. “Having kids” doesn’t mean “bearing children.” Whether you’ve adopted kids or are caring for them on a regular basis–yes, you share the feeling. I don’t think anyone wants to get in a pissing match over “who feels more” when it comes to being a mom or stepmom or foster mom or any mom. Yes, you’re a mom. You understand. You “have” kids as far as I’m concerned.

That said, I don’t purport to understand what it’s like to lose a loved one to cancer, to suffer a miscarriage, to know the joy of seeing two children grow up together, to reach Mt Everest, etc etc etc. Because I’ve never had those experiences. I can guess, I can try to empathize, I can work hard on contemplating that experience. But it would be disrespectful for me to say I know “just what it’s like” because I’ve gone through something that seems similar to me. I think that’s what people mean–worrying about a spouse or pet is poignant and wrenching, for example, but it’s a different variety of worry than one has over a child. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/125 "2001-11-14T01:03:46Z")

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> The BET came AFTER … jeez talk about reading comprehension … oh and you thank you … you calling me a bitch is like Heidi Fleiss calling someone SLUT.

Ah. The brilliant “I know you are, but what am I” rebuttal. Truly devastating. Try this: You saying that I don’t have reading comprehension is like Charles Manson calling someone else irrational.

Please let us know when they let you graduate into high school, m’kay?

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/126 "2001-11-14T01:07:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \*  
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> No but I am the only one you seem to have a fascination with … why is that??? \*\*

To the best of my knowledge, you’re the only one in this thread who is a troll, who made an offensively flippant recommendation about taking drugs, and who is crowing about the gross generalizations you’ve been able to draw about the boards.

But let’s face it, mostly you’re just _so danged fun_. Oh, what was your word? Fascinating. I was thinking fun, but I’ll go with fascinating.

As I said in my first post, most of the time I’d agree with those who brought up the other perspective (kids can’t be protected from germs; most people simply mean well; you gotta be polite to make your wishes known) but acknowledged the special circumstances here being that Emily was a preemie and is still young to boot.

I suspect you probably didn’t notice _me_ until my neanderthal “fuck” post. I’m just such a wallflower most of the time.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/127 "2001-11-14T01:17:24Z")

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Wow. I just looked at Emily’s pictures…oh my…she’s so little and so cute. This is going to sound corny as all hell, but she’s so precious! It’s just…wow.

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**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/128 "2001-11-14T01:19:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \*  
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> > No but I am the only one you seem to have a fascination with … why is that??? \*\*
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> To the best of my knowledge, you’re the only one in this thread who is a troll, who made an offensively flippant recommendation about taking drugs, and who is crowing about the gross generalizations you’ve been able to draw about the boards.
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> But let’s face it, mostly you’re just _so danged fun_. Oh, what was your word? Fascinating. I was thinking fun, but I’ll go with fascinating.
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> As I said in my first post, most of the time I’d agree with those who brought up the other perspective (kids can’t be protected from germs; most people simply mean well; you gotta be polite to make your wishes known) but acknowledged the special circumstances here being that Emily was a preemie and is still young to boot.
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> I suspect you probably didn’t notice _me_ until my neanderthal “fuck” post. I’m just such a wallflower most of the time. \*\*

I am fun aren’t I … the comment about take the Paxil was not flippant it was sincere it helps with PPD … I know this because when I had my miscarriage (at 6 months) before I knew I was destined to be CHILDFREE I was put on it for the hormonal imbalance known as PPD …

If the child was a preemie and young and parents are so all fired worried about it … get a sitter or stay at home … germs happen … and yes … some people coo over babies …

I didn’t notice you until you suggested shoving items up my ass … the word FUCK doesn’t phase me at all …

Being a TROLL … someone here labelled me with that … I have every intention of sticking around and posting where I please … trying to see if there are decent people here with ideas I am interested in … but threatening to have me banned doesn’t bother me in the least … calling me a troll does even less … as does calling me bitch, idiot, stupid, moron, or anything else it is simply someone’s opinion of me … simply mind over matter … you know how it goes don’t you … I don’t mind … so you don’t matter.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/129 "2001-11-14T02:01:55Z")

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You are a troll. An obnoxious one, at that. Of course, we are all aware of this.

I am posting merely to point out that in the English language, we end sentences with periods (.) rather than ellipses (…).

You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/130 "2001-11-14T02:04:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Screamergirl \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Kinsey \*  
> > Bullshit. It’s not “nonsense”. \*\*
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> Now I’m calling bullshit.
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> I’ve never bore a child. I do, however, have three step-children that I am fiercely protective of - even moreso than their mother or father is.
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> You don’t have to HAVE one to understand the feeling.
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> Screamergirl \*\*

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> \*\*ImChildFREE said:  
> I too think it is offensive to claim that because you have never given birth to a child you can not possibly understand the love for a child or the desire to protect it. Explain that to the countless adoptive parents around the world.

\*\*  
As OpalCat and someone else (Cranky?) have pointed out, I never said “give birth”, I said “have” with regard to having the kids.  
Case in point: I have three kids. I only gave birth to two of them. One is an adopted stepchild. I love all three exactly the same.  
You were saying?

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/131 "2001-11-14T02:05:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sealemon88 \*  
> \*\*Bask in the cuteness that is [Emily!](http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1749619&a=13787383&f=0) \*\*

I love her eye mask! IwantIwantIwant!

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**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/132 "2001-11-14T02:09:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MsWhatsit \*  
> \*\*You are a troll. An obnoxious one, at that. Of course, we are all aware of this.
> 
> I am posting merely to point out that in the English language, we end sentences with periods (.) rather than ellipses (…).
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> You’re welcome. \*\*

Well thank you very much(EXCLAIMATION POINT)  
But (COMMA) is that the best you can come up with(QUESTION MARK)  
You know this is actually getting boring for me(PERIOD)  
So (COMMA) I think I will retire for the evening(PERIOD)  
Enjoy your evening all(EXCLAIMATION POINT)

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/133 "2001-11-14T02:30:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Screamergirl \*  
> \*\*  
> I’ve never bore a child. I do, however, have three step-children that I am fiercely protective of - even moreso than their mother or father is.
> 
> You don’t have to HAVE one to understand the feeling.
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> Screamergirl \*\*

I consider that to be “having children”. Taking care of children in the role of a parent = “having children”

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/134 "2001-11-14T02:32:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
> > \*\*I’m not sure how to break this to you, but _you’re not the only Doper to disagree with Bubblegirl_ about the OP. I realize that might crush your image of (a) all of us as sheep and (b) yourself as The Great Liberator of Free Thought on the boards.
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> > Alas, it can’t be helped. \*\*
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> No but I am the only one you seem to have a fascination with … why is that??? \*\*

_gasp_ could it be that maybe it isn’t people with differing opinions that we have a problem with? Could it be _gasp again_ that we have a problem with ignorant idiots, instead? DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/135 "2001-11-14T02:36:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \*  
> \*\*the comment about take the Paxil was not flippant it was sincere it helps with PPD … \*\*

I’d be more inclined to believe you but for the fact that the comment wasn’t directed to a new mom.

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**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/136 "2001-11-14T02:45:49Z")

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Wow so we have \*\* IAmChildFREE \*\* joining up just to post to this thread and on the same day \*\* Screamergirl \*\* shows up and it seems she just wants to post in here too.

I consider \*\* bubble girl \*\* and \*\* Sealemon88 \*\* both friends of mine. I have met them face to face, but that’s not why I think \*\* bubble girl \*\* was right.  
She was right because as others have pointed out, no one with half a brain walks up to an adult and grabs their hand.

As for \*\* bubble girl \*\* posting about what happened here, members of this board post rants, vent, bitch, moan and cry in this forum all the time. It is here for that as well as for flaming.

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**Author:** ![ImChildFREE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ImChildFREE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ImChildFREE)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/137 "2001-11-14T03:16:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by OpalCat \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \*  
> > \*\*the comment about take the Paxil was not flippant it was sincere it helps with PPD … \*\*
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> I’d be more inclined to believe you but for the fact that the comment wasn’t directed to a new mom. \*\*

It wasn’t directed to a new mom (BubbleGirl) it was directed to Ayesha.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/138 "2001-11-14T03:27:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ImChildFREE \*  
> \*\*It wasn’t directed to a new mom (BubbleGirl) it was directed to Ayesha. \*\*

No shit that’s what I just said. To quote you, exactly:

“And there’s no need for you to get ugly you know … unless you just can’t help it … caused by some sort of post-partum disorder you’ve got going on there??? Try some Paxil … I hear it does wonders for new mom’s and their mood swings.”

So as I said, you claim your suggestion was a legitimate offer of help… but clearly it wasn’t as you were diagnosing postpartum depression for Ayesha, who isn’t a new mom.

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**Author:** ![Screamergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Screamergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Screamergirl)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/139 "2001-11-14T03:36:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ayesha \*  
> \*\*Wow so we have \*\* IAmChildFREE \*\* joining up just to post to this thread and on the same day \*\* Screamergirl \*\* shows up and it seems she just wants to post in here too.  
> \*\*

\<chuckle\> Considering that I am NOT child free, I can’t begin to believe you’re going to say we’re the same person? Or, do you question every new person who shows up on these boards? Is there a test we’re supposed to take before you believe who we are?

Do I know IAMchildFree? Yes. I’m on an email list with her. She brought this fascinating topic up there, and I came to read the thread. I took offense at the “you couldn’t understand if you’re not a mother” remark (because technically, I’m not a mother. I’m a step-mother with adult step-children now), which is the reason I posted. The first post I made was (about a person saying that she’d bitch slap anyone who touched her child – kind of ironic, eh?) irony.

Now then.

I could become a member of this board and post often. Or, you all could continue to harrass me and I could slink off into the night and away from the negative energy.

Either way, life goes on as usual, eh?

Screamergirl.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-touch-my-baby/92860/140 "2001-11-14T03:42:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Screamergirl \*  
> \*\* I took offense at the “you couldn’t understand if you’re not a mother” remark (because technically, I’m not a mother. I’m a step-mother with adult step-children now), which is the reason I posted. \*\*

…which was addressed, and you have no reason to be offended.

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