# Don't use that song

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863 "2002-12-10T22:07:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/1 "2002-12-10T22:07:02Z")

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1. That stupid jeans commercial with the Fogerty song (“some folks are born/born to raise the flag…”)  
That’s an ANTI-WAR SONG, you idiots! Maybe I should flame Fogety for that.
2. Also - that car commmercial with that beautful woman sharing her car with a succession of boyfriends (hippie, stockbroker type, then she lusts after the wrecker driver) That’s a Talking Heads Song - the left out the line “We went insane when we took cocaine.”

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/2 "2002-12-10T22:12:18Z")

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The Heineken ad that uses Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart”.

Just … just _because_, damn it.

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**Author:** ![Profane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@Profane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Profane)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/3 "2002-12-10T22:23:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ruadh \*  
> \*\*The Heineken ad that uses Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart”.
> 
> Just … just _because_, damn it. \*\*

I am so very glad I haven’t seen this.

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**Author:** ![racekarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@racekarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racekarl)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/4 "2002-12-10T22:30:59Z")

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Haha yeah I always laugh at that jeans commercial w/ Fortunate Son because the very next line (that would come after the commercial ends) is “that ain’t me, that ain’t me”

On the other hand, rant part 2 is unfounded. The song in the Hyundai commercial is almost certainly intended to be a remake of Mariah Carey’s “Fantasy”, which is not a complete cover of the Talking Heads’ “Genius of Love.” All she really borrowed was the first refrain, so it’s perfectly natural that the ad would not include the line about cocaine (not that it would have anyway.)

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**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/5 "2002-12-10T22:46:51Z")

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> That’s a Talking Heads Song - the left out the line “We went insane when we took cocaine.”

Tom-tom Club, actually. Talking Heads withough David Byrne, that is. It’s on the remastered _Stop Making Sense_, though, because Byrne took a break.

Although, I think the peak of commercial idiocy peaked with “Oh Lord, Won’t You Buy Me a Mercedes Benz”…

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/6 "2002-12-10T22:50:23Z")

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Yeah the Joy Division one is pretty bad.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/7 "2002-12-10T22:52:36Z")

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I know we’ve talked about it on the Boards before, but using Iggy Pop’s “Lust for Life” to promote Disney Cruises is so bad it’s delicious.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/8 "2002-12-10T22:53:34Z")

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_Fortunate Son_ was the first song that came to mind when I saw the thread title, even before opening it. I agree completely. The song also has a line that is anti-consumerism:

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> Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,  
> Lord, don’t they help themselves, oh.  
> But when the taxman comes to the door,  
> Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes,
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> It ain’t me, it ain’t me, I ain’t no millionaire’s son, no.  
> It ain’t me, it ain’t me; I ain’t no fortunate one, no.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/9 "2002-12-10T23:14:42Z")

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Nissan XTerra…remember the one? They used “What Do I Get?” by the Buzzcocks. Awful!

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**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/10 "2002-12-10T23:28:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beadalin \*  
> \*\*I know we’ve talked about it on the Boards before, but using Iggy Pop’s “Lust for Life” to promote Disney Cruises is so bad it’s delicious. \*\*

That would be nice, except it isn’t even close to being true.

Iggy Pop’s _Lust For Life_ is indeed used to promote a cruise line, but I can assure you that it is NOT Disney’s cruise line.

Try again.

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**Author:** ![BF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@BF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BF)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/11 "2002-12-10T23:41:20Z")

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Not to mention 'Zep’s “Rock-n-Roll” for the new Cadillacs. And they’re flying off the lots. Hmmmmm…

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**Author:** ![hazel-rah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/73ab20/32.png) [@hazel-rah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hazel-rah)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2002, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/12 "2002-12-10T23:53:05Z")

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> The Heineken ad that uses Joy Division’s “Love Will Tear Us Apart”. Just … just because, damn it.

Yeah. But if Deborah Curtis holds the copyright to “Love Will Tear Us Apart” it isn’t that shocking… he _did_ cheat on her and then commit suicide. Not what you want from a husband when you’ve just had a baby. Why wouldn’t she cash in on his music?

-fh

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/13 "2002-12-11T00:31:01Z")

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I don’t think Fogerty owns the rights to any of the old Creedence material. He’s probably as pissed about it as any of us.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/14 "2002-12-11T00:47:03Z")

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> That would be nice, except it isn’t even close to being true.
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> Iggy Pop’s Lust For Life is indeed used to promote a cruise line, but I can assure you that it is NOT Disney’s cruise line.
> 
> Try again.

Well, it seems to me that if it is “indeed used to promote a cruise line,” then it is obviously in fact “close to being true.”

I’m sure BEADALIN can defend herself, but I don’t understand why people have to be so fucking snotty about minor mistakes.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/15 "2002-12-11T01:05:34Z")

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A thousand apologies. Royal Caribbean is the cruise line, not the vaunted Disney. Perhaps I should also confess that I once thought “American Woman” was being used to plug Lee jeans. I am sure this has earned me a place in the eternal fires of hell.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/16 "2002-12-11T01:17:50Z")

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Which car company is it that has the commercial using the Stooges’ “TV Eye”? The one where the dude is filming skiers jumping off a cliff. Makes me wanna puke.

Not that Iggy didn’t completely sell out twenty years ago, but _still_…

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**Author:** ![stockton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@stockton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stockton)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/17 "2002-12-11T02:13:05Z")

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The Fogerty one just knocks me off the couch, but I’m pretty sure Saul Zaentz owns it.  
It’s just so ridiculous as a ‘patriotic’ pitch jingle. Worse than Ronnie using ‘Born in the USA.’

Wasn’t there a company selling cars using ‘88 lines about 44 women?’

To **black455** re: “Not that Iggy didn’t completely sell out twenty years ago, but still…”

I saw Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols giving an interview a few years back (on MTV?) - he was describing and bemoaning the plight of the disaffected UK youth in the late 70’s, and the despair within…

ON HIS FRICKIN’ PRIVATE ITALIAN MEDITERRANEAN ISLAND, with the top cut off nice and flat, and marble statues everywhere. Punk died the day the first kid said “punk’s not dead.”

Note to St. Paul McCartney: Don’t complain about MJ selling your songs for ads while you’re selling Buddy Holly’s tunes as ad fodder (cf: ‘Oh Buick,’ instead of ‘Oh Boy’).

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/18 "2002-12-11T07:20:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hazel-rah \*  
> **Yeah. But if Deborah Curtis holds the copyright to “Love Will Tear Us Apart” it isn’t that shocking… he _did_ cheat on her and then commit suicide. Not what you want from a husband when you’ve just had a baby. Why wouldn’t she cash in on his music?**

Are you sure that she does hold it, though? AFAICR Joy Division songs were always credited to the entire band.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/19 "2002-12-11T07:34:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DoctorJ \*  
> \*\*I don’t think Fogerty owns the rights to any of the old Creedence material. He’s probably as pissed about it as any of us. \*\*

This is true. He is still very upset about all the CCR songs he wrote but has no rights to. And Fogerty holds the dubious distinction of being the only person sued for plagerizing _himself_.

[sub]_the owner of the rights to CCR’s songs thought “The old man down the road” sounded too much like “Run through the jungle”. Not sure how that case turned out._/sub]

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-use-that-song/141863/20 "2002-12-11T07:52:02Z")

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Heh, I’d considered doing one about the CCR song in the past.

What bugs me is the use of “Getting Better” in the Phillips commercials. They always end the commercials with the Phillips logo and the lines “I’ve got to admit it’s getting better/A little better all the time,” but they leave out the part “it can’t get no worse.”

I hate how they can use some out of context clips from a song and make them fit.

I liked it when they had “Crazy Train” in the Nissan commercial. It amused me.

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