# Don't vote for Obama, he drinks organic tea!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359 "2008-07-31T14:53:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/41 "2008-07-31T21:23:16Z")

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Double double, toil and trouble–servers crash and hamsters wobble!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/42 "2008-07-31T21:27:06Z")

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“Got Sole, Brother?”

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/43 "2008-07-31T22:05:00Z")

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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]  
No kidding, **SoaT,** that was a nut shot!

[Looks like the elves have been busy–or should that be “the brownies?”](http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/smartaleq/elitistfail.jpg)  
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I’m surprised McCain hasn’t claimed that it was shoop’d. “This looks shopped. I can tell from the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.”

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/44 "2008-07-31T22:09:41Z")

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The whole “arugula” meme in particular should have had a stake punched through its heart a year ago. _He was talking to farmers in Iowa. Arugula is grown in Iowa. The end._

But no, gotta play the “Obama is the Other” meme. Can’t say why we really think Obama is different. Doesn’t play well on prime time, you see. So instead we’re going to sidle up to it from every possible angle, point out every little bullshit inconsequential thing we can, until everyone is thinking about how Obama is Not Like Them…and then let the viewer fill in the hole, the one thing we haven’t mentioned, for themselves. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

Have I mentioned how disgusting I think this is recently?

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**Author:** ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/45 "2008-07-31T22:11:53Z")

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[QUOTE=3acresandatruck]  
You know, the saddest part is knowing a strategy like that works. When I first saw some of these McCain ads, I thought, “He’s pathetic.” Then I thought, “He’ll win doing this shit.”  
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Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/46 "2008-07-31T22:50:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Key Lime Guy]  
Exactly.  
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I’d like to be able to disagree with you, but I can’t. My bet would be that the undecided voters aren’t really undecided, but are embarrassed to say they won’t vote for a black man. Come the election they’ll break 2:1 for McCain. It may be enough to swing the election. I’m still giving McCain a better than 50/50 shot.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/47 "2008-07-31T22:55:40Z")

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Hey, just as long as he doesn’t ice it down, mix it with lemonade and call it a _Tiger Woods_.

(Because everyone knows it’s an _Arnold Palmer_, anyway)

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/48 "2008-07-31T23:41:03Z")

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If I had a voice in the Obama campaign:

Run a 60 second ad.

Pick three of the nastiest Republican attack ads, ones that can be countered with a sound bite.

E.g.

'John McCain’s campaign said:

[Run 5-second snip of the German military hospital ad]

“Fact: Senator Obama planned to visit that hospital until told by the base commanded that his doing so would violate U.S. law. He complied with the law.”

[Repeat 2X with other attack ad snippets, each with the “Senator McCain’s campaign said”/“Fact” dichotomy. Then]

“Senator McCain’s campaign said that it was going to be a civil and honorable campaign.”

Fact: For once, America has a chance to see how well a candidate keeps his campaign promises _during_ the campaign.

I’m Barack Obama, and I approved this message."

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/49 "2008-07-31T23:43:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train]  
This coming from a herbivore? I’d think lettuce, or at least leaves, would be your issue. 😉  
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Me, I’ll vote for the first candidate to eat a bug on TV.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/50 "2008-07-31T23:53:25Z")

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Me, I’d just craft an ad by cutting together two or three dozen instances of John McCain standing at the lectern saying “Barack Obama.”

Voiceover: Senator McCain, what can you tell us about your own platform?

Clips of McCain saying nothing.

Voiceover: Senator McCain, what do you plan to do as President?

Clips of McCain saying nothing.

Voiceover: Senator McCain, what will you do for this country?

More clips of McCain saying “Obama… Obama… Barack Obama… Obama…”

Voiceover: Senator McCain, don’t you have a plan for the country?

Silence.

Heck, it sells itself.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/51 "2008-08-01T00:41:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Orbifold]  
The whole “arugula” meme in particular should have had a stake punched through its heart a year ago. _He was talking to farmers in Iowa. Arugula is grown in Iowa. The end._

But no, gotta play the “Obama is the Other” meme. Can’t say why we really think Obama is different. Doesn’t play well on prime time, you see. So instead we’re going to sidle up to it from every possible angle, point out every little bullshit inconsequential thing we can, until everyone is thinking about how Obama is Not Like Them…and then let the viewer fill in the hole, the one thing we haven’t mentioned, for themselves. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

Have I mentioned how disgusting I think this is recently?  
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Yeah, and when Obama calls him on it, allofasudden Obama’s [“playing the race card!”](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/31/mccain-camp-obama-playing_n_116081.html)

Don’t they get dizzy from all this spin? Damn!

And okay, you may have a point about the arugula, but I have it on good authority that he does like lattes, so he’s not off the hook yet, that elitist jerk! 😛

You know, it occurs to me–you know what (other than McSame) flipflops a lot? Gaffed fish, that’s what. Coincidence? I think not!

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/52 "2008-08-01T02:29:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Orbifold]  
The whole “arugula” meme in particular should have had a stake punched through its heart a year ago. _He was talking to farmers in Iowa. Arugula is grown in Iowa. The end._  
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You’re not suggesting that Iowans actually _eat_ that arugula, are you?

Iowans are REAL Americans! They don’t eat foo foo lettuce. They ship it all to the tree-hugging California hippies and the bleeding heart pinko liberal New York Jews. Iowans eat iceberg lettuce, just like God wants them to.

_This post brought to you by a bleeding heart pinko liberal New York Jew who is sick and tired of being told that she isn’t a “real American.” My comments about Iowans were intended purely for comedic effect and are not intended to cause offense to any Iowan, living or dead. I have no knowledge of comparative consumption levels of different types of lettuce in Iowa. For all I know, they could be fiends for arugula. Who knows? Maybe there is severe tension in Des Moines between the arugula contingent and the radicchio crowd. Maybe the romaine traditionalists in Davenport have a bitter rivalry with the mesclun lovers in Ames. Cedar Rapids could be a harmonious utopia where all citizens can agree on mixed baby greens. And you know what? Maybe Barack Obama, secretly, in his heart of hearts, really does love iceberg lettuce. Just like I do._

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/53 "2008-08-01T02:29:59Z")

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I can say on good authority that Black Forest Berry Honest Tea is not hard to find. I have one every weekend–I get it at the cooler by the checkout at the local grocery store–it’s the last thing I put in my cart. Damn, that’s some good stuff.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/54 "2008-08-01T03:22:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Green Bean]  
Iowans are REAL Americans! They don’t eat foo foo lettuce. They ship it all to the tree-hugging California hippies and the bleeding heart pinko liberal New York Jews. Iowans eat iceberg lettuce, just like God wants them to.  
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What I want to know is, when did arugula become highbrow? My Italian relatives ate it and I figured it was just another really disgusting Italian side dish that sensible people with one working tastebud in their head would eschew, like broccolirabe and baccala. Now it’s some sort of iconic food of effete liberals? How did this HAPPEN?!? Please don’t tell me Obama really eats that stuff, because this, unlike his smoking or excessive workouts, would make me rethink his candidacy.

😉

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/55 "2008-08-01T03:33:32Z")

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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]  
Yeah, and when Obama calls him on it, allofasudden Obama’s [“playing the race card!”](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/31/mccain-camp-obama-playing_n_116081.html)  
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Well, he did go and get himself all blackface just so he’d have an advantage over McCain. If that isn’t playing the “race card”, I don’t know what is.

The nerve of some people…

Stranger

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/56 "2008-08-01T04:25:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train]  
Well, he did go and get himself all blackface . . .  
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[al jolson]

I’d walk a million miles  
For one of your smiles  
Obaaaaaammmyyyyyy!

[/aj]

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/57 "2008-08-01T07:26:00Z")

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We are expecting an indictment from The Hague.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/58 "2008-08-01T07:36:24Z")

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[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett]  
Hey, just as long as he doesn’t ice it down, mix it with lemonade and call it a _Tiger Woods_.

(Because everyone knows it’s an _Arnold Palmer_, anyway)  
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Thanks for the over-explaination, I was feeling a bit SDMB meme-lost.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/59 "2008-08-01T12:11:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Don’t fight the hypothetical]  
Thanks for the over-explaination, I was feeling a bit SDMB meme-lost.  
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Just filling the holes where I see 'em, buddy.

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**Author:** ![pantheon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@pantheon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantheon)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-vote-for-obama-he-drinks-organic-tea/458359/60 "2008-08-01T14:43:41Z")

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Is it just me, or did the long profile shot of McCain at the end of [the ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHXYsw_ZDXg) make anyone else think “I sure do like dem french-fried p’taters, mmhmm.”

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