# Don't we also have to respect cheaters and sociopaths?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 28, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204 "2005-01-28T23:25:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/21 "2005-01-28T23:56:58Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Unliscensed nurses…why does that sound porny?
Dear Penthouse,
I never believed it could happen to Ayn Rand …
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### Author:  [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/22 "2005-01-28T23:57:23Z")
> [@SusanStoHelit](#):
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> Assuming this isn’t a whoosh, Ayn.
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> And it’s still Ayn if it is a whoosh, too!
It’s a bird…it’s a plane…It’s a whoosh!
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### Author:  [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/23 "2005-01-28T23:58:35Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Äyn Rand?
No! A is A. A is _not_ Ä.
In fact, Ä is not Ä either. Fuck Ä.
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### Author:  [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/24 "2005-01-28T23:58:51Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Dear Penthouse,
> I never believed it could happen to Ayn Rand …
Dear Penthouse,
I never thought I would be whooshed by Ayn Rand by The Fountainhead…it was the best I ever had.
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### Author:  [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/25 "2005-01-29T00:00:14Z")
Whatever happened to Ian Rand anyway? [11th round draft choice](http://www.sports-wired.com/teams/stats.asp?T=25&Y=1995&N=D) of the San Francisco Giants in 1995, last I heard.
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### Author:  [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/26 "2005-01-29T00:01:21Z")
**Rand McNally** sure makes some good maps.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/27 "2005-01-29T00:01:57Z")
Some might think it unfair to harp on a single spelling mistake in the OP’s post and disregard his premise.
Tough. It’s Ayn Rand.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/28 "2005-01-29T00:03:05Z")
Oddly enough, Ayn Rand 'al Thor is the Objectivist Dragon Reborn.
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### Author:  [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/29 "2005-01-29T00:03:08Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Äyn Rand?
Äyn øbjectivist once bit my sister…
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### Author:  [@SusanStoHelit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SusanStoHelit)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/30 "2005-01-29T00:03:16Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Maybe you heard it in the Mariana’s Trench.
When was that? And for how long?
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### Author:  [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/31 "2005-01-29T00:04:13Z")
[ayn](http://www.ayn.ca)
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### Author:  [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/32 "2005-01-29T00:07:14Z")
So, Ian Rand, a Satanist and a Hedonist walked into a swingers bar…
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### Author:  [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/33 "2005-01-29T00:07:35Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Oddly enough, Ayn Rand 'al Thor is the Objectivist Dragon Reborn.
This is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on the Dope.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/34 "2005-01-29T00:09:29Z")
> [@pravnik](#):
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> I may respect someone’s right to bizzare occult beliefs of dubious origin, but if someone claims those beliefs require them to ritually sacrifice a human being on the eve of the AFC Championship, I don’t have to accept it.
Actually, it’s the NFC Championship game. Which reminds me, Donovan McNabb is good, but he’s no **Ayn Rand** all Cunningham.
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### Author:  [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/35 "2005-01-29T00:10:35Z")
I believe the answer is “Rio” by Ayn Rand.
> [@manhattan](#):
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> Äyn øbjectivist once bit my sister…
øbjectivist bites can be nasti…
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### Author:  [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/36 "2005-01-29T00:11:28Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Maybe you heard it in the Mariana’s Trench.
You mean the Mariayna’s Trench. Duh.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/37 "2005-01-29T00:11:36Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Some might think it unfair to harp on a single spelling mistake in the OP’s post and disregard his premise.
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> Tough. It’s Ayn Rand.
And besides, **featherlou** and **pravnik** have answered the question as well as it could be answered. The rest of us can just have fun.
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### Author:  [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/38 "2005-01-29T00:11:44Z")
You should respect someones right to hold whatever beleif they want, but you make your own decisions as to whether you respect their beliefs. But if you don’t respect someones beliefs that doesn’t make it polite to disparage their beliefs.
I respect someones right to believe Scientology, but I do not respect the belief in Scientology. None the less this doesn’t give me any right to laugh at or ridicule the Scientologists who have set up shop in Mountain View.
When people start acting on their beleifs then a new evaluation of respect occurs. A sociopaph who manages to live their life without harming others deserves respect, and freedom to carry on as they are doing. A sociopath who causes harm to others loses much respect, and deserves to be curtailed, imprisoned or otherwise forced to become non harmful to others.
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/39 "2005-01-29T00:13:14Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Actually, it’s the NFC Championship game. Which reminds me, Donovan McNabb is good, but he’s no **Ayn Rand** all Cunningham.
Ouch. Why are the pun police never around when one needs them?
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### Author:  [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-also-have-to-respect-cheaters-and-sociopaths/287204/40 "2005-01-29T00:13:54Z")
What the fuck are you talking about **Bippy**? That has nothing to do with Ayn Rand.
Talk about your non-sequitors…
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