# Don't we have an obligation as a society to look at ways to curb gun violence?

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**Created:** [November 23, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-have-an-obligation-as-a-society-to-look-at-ways-to-curb-gun-violence/641871 "2012-11-23T04:16:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-have-an-obligation-as-a-society-to-look-at-ways-to-curb-gun-violence/641871/308 "2012-12-20T12:00:36Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Now, I hate to argue from authority, but damn, that’s Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John & Samuel Adams, John Hancock and a host of other greats, in whose shadow we don’t even deserve to be. If those great men say they were living under tyranny, and took the time to so prove in one of the greatest documents of all time- then they lived under tyranny. Sorry dude, you lose the internet.

What the hell does this even mean? Yes they did impressive things, but they were merely human. And why don’t we “deserve” to live in their shadow?

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