# Don't we have an obligation as a society to look at ways to curb gun violence? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 23, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-have-an-obligation-as-a-society-to-look-at-ways-to-curb-gun-violence/641871 "2012-11-23T04:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 317
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-have-an-obligation-as-a-society-to-look-at-ways-to-curb-gun-violence/641871/317 "2012-12-20T16:38:50Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Please explain what about the Articles of Confederation you consider rebuts my post. It’s mind-numblingly simple: What you suggest was tried and failed _while the founding fathers were still around_! No need to raise hypotheticals on this one. I realize that RON PAUL and his supporters like to forget that this state autonomy idea was tried and failed, but I don’t think the founding fathers would since they were mostly all able to witness the failure and take a part in trying to come up with something better. Unless you think that a bunch of intelligent, educated, thoughtful men would suddenly act real unintelligent, uneducated and thoughtless by trying out something that they already knew first-hand had failed. (Note: If you care to have more discussion on it, please start another thread since this is a hijack.) --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-we-have-an-obligation-as-a-society-to-look-at-ways-to-curb-gun-violence/641871)._