# Don't wear Halloween costumes to school--or else!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239 "2005-11-03T04:04:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/1 "2005-11-03T04:04:35Z")

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Over the past few years, we’ve seen any number of stories about the idiotic attempts by public schools to stifle or neuter observance of Halloween. However, [the method allegedly employed by this teacher in Tulsa](http://2worksforyou.com/news/stories/underwear.shtml) easily tops them all.

I feel sorry for the kid since the punishment seems deliberately based upon the common nightmare about being naked in class.

The fact that the name of the school where this happened is Walt Disney Elementary is also a nice touch.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/2 "2005-11-03T04:43:29Z")

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For some reason this story really, really pisses me off. Maybe because I’ve got kids of my own in elementary school. Maybe because I grew up in Tulsa, back before the religious nutters started crapping on everything. I can remember me and my sisters wearing our Halloween costumes to school.

I think the teacher should be disciplined by requiring her to stand all day in front of the school stripped to her underwear. That should give her ample time to reflect on the appropriateness of humiliating a five-year-old in such a manner.

Poor kid was probably really proud of his costume too … . :mad:

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/3 "2005-11-03T04:52:27Z")

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If that was my kid I’d be pretty pissed off and I’d be howling for that teachers ass in a sling. The school has a policy that ‘forbids costumes’…so what does this dumb ass teacher do? Makes the kid strip to his underwear?? “Crystal Harris says her 5-year old son was forced to take off his costume, and go through the entire school day with only his underwear on.” I’m sorry, but this teacher should be fired just because she is fucking stupid…and whoever is running that school needs to be fired as well.

I hope this story is a woosh because if its not…well, lets just say the Halloween costumes have nothing on the teachers at that school for being scary…

:mad:

-XT

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/4 "2005-11-03T05:02:19Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> The fact that the name of the school where this happened is Walt Disney Elementary is also a nice touch.

“We must never lose sight of one thing…it all started with a kid who wandered around a school in his underwear after being forced to remove his Halloween costume.”

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/5 "2005-11-03T05:15:46Z")

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I hope there’s a lawsuit, and soon.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/6 "2005-11-03T05:18:34Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I hope there’s a lawsuit, and soon.

Indeed. This must have caused mental trauma to the child. The phrase ‘scarred for life’ comes to mind. No, seriously. Childhood traumas can have effects that last a lifetime. The teacher is an ignoramus.

Or perhaps the teacher just likes to see little boys in their underwear.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/7 "2005-11-03T05:22:43Z")

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Not to mention-wouldn’t he have been freezing his ass off? What the hell was that teacher fucking THINKING?

Jesus christ!

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/8 "2005-11-03T05:25:36Z")

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Walt Disney Elementary?  
What kind of [Mickey Mouse Operation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Operation) are they running there, anyway? 😃

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/9 "2005-11-03T05:42:10Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Not to mention-wouldn’t he have been freezing his ass off? What the hell was that teacher fucking THINKING?

I was so mad thinking about how embarrassed this poor kid was I didn’t even consider this aspect. Now I’m even madder…

> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> Or perhaps the teacher just likes to see little boys in their underwear.

You probably said this in jest, but think about it. Wouldn’t it have been easier to either call the kids parents and have them come get him (or bring him a change of clothes), or if that wasn’t possible simply keep him in the principals office (WITH his costume on) for the remainder of the day? I mean, if they had to be assholes about it (I suppose though its debatable if shools should have such policies in the first place) couldn’t they at least be sane assholes?

Instead the teacher orders a 5 year old to strip to his underwear and then finish out the school day in that fashion. This strikes me as either vindictive as hell on the part of the teacher (‘I’m going to show THIS little bastard who is the boss here!’) or, well…‘perhaps the teacher just likes to see little boys in their underwear’ as you said.

-XT

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/10 "2005-11-03T05:47:13Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Walt Disney Elementary?

Why is the school named after him, anyway? As far as I know, Walt Disney never set foot in Oklahoma. He was born in Illinois, grew up in Missouri, and worked in California? Is he the new Martin Luther King or something? Is he that important to name a school after him in a state he never lived in? (That may be a question for Great Debates.)

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/11 "2005-11-03T05:59:32Z")

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I don’t know what schools in the US do, but my son’s elementary school in Canada had a school nurse with spare clothes for when little kids had ‘accidents’. So what the fuck, teacher-lady?

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/12 "2005-11-03T06:27:44Z")

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I guess there’s no rule forbidding kids to go to school in their underwear.

Poor kid.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/13 "2005-11-03T06:35:12Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I was so mad thinking about how embarrassed this poor kid was I didn’t even consider this aspect. Now I’m even madder…
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> -XT

Yeah-and I hope you don’t think I was ignoring the embarassment factor, either. I’m just thinking of the poor kid sitting all day in probably a pair of underoos, probably really ashamed and shivering. Poor little thing.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/14 "2005-11-03T07:12:17Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Walt Disney Elementary?  
> What kind of [Mickey Mouse Operation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Operation) are they running there, anyway? 😃

… Fawlty Towers?

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**Author:** ![AmbushBug](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ambushbug/32/4600_2.png) [@AmbushBug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmbushBug)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/15 "2005-11-03T07:53:28Z")

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I guess the precedent has been set in this school that underwear-only is acceptable attire for a student throughout the school day.

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**Author:** ![furlibusea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@furlibusea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furlibusea)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/16 "2005-11-03T12:37:25Z")

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I know my daughter’s school had a policy that required every kid up through 2nd grade to keep an extra set of clothes in their cubby. Even though there were some parents who were slackers, there was always another kid who had some. In all the schools I subbed in, there were similar policies, plus the office usualy had some for older kids for either girls who got their period early or a muddy day outside or any number of things. I think my sisters kids also had much the same thing, so did we for that matter. I can’t imagine anyone running a first grade classroom without some kind of contingency. This woman strikes me as someone who should not really deal with children. Perhaps she would be better as a prison guard or some such… Oh wait, that is a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/17 "2005-11-03T13:13:09Z")

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I don’t have any children of my own, but for some reason this spoke to me as something so heinous that I can’t imagine this teacher won’t face strict disciplinary action. However, just to do my small part to voice that outrage, it was a simple matter to Google the school and get the principal’s email.

Just wanted to share that information to those who might feel or want to do the same. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/18 "2005-11-03T13:53:22Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> Why is the school named after him, anyway? As far as I know, Walt Disney never set foot in Oklahoma. He was born in Illinois, grew up in Missouri, and worked in California? Is he the new Martin Luther King or something? Is he that important to name a school after him in a state he never lived in? (That may be a question for Great Debates.)

Irecall that Disney had an ad agency/animation group in the Midwest, prior to Hitting It Big. That proto-firm went bust.

It may have been in that state, for all I know.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/19 "2005-11-03T14:29:55Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> However, just to do my small part to voice that outrage, it was a simple matter to Google the school and get the principal’s email.

For those of you who don’t want to experience the painful retinal burning of that ugly, ugly site, that’s Principal Louis Galluzzi,

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-wear-halloween-costumes-to-school-or-else/329239/20 "2005-11-03T14:40:55Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> For those of you who don’t want to experience the painful retinal burning of that ugly, ugly site, that’s Principal Louis Galluzzi, link removed.

Also the counselor - Charla Connelly

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