# Don't worry about the planet, God is going to wreck this shit anyway **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 14, 2012, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010 "2012-12-14T08:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/41 "2012-12-25T19:47:31Z")
I have it on good authority that hurricane Sandy was not caused by either Global Warming or God’s Wrath. It was the illuminati aiming it at the New York area to get Bloomberg to endorse Obama. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/42 "2012-12-25T20:01:55Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Anyway, I have realized since that post that being a true-blue fundamentalist is actually worse than being retarded. A retarded person simply thinks more slowly, while a fundamentalist _cannot think at all_, at least not about these kinds of questions. Or they are thinking, but using an enormous amount of bad data and worse epistemology. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/43 "2012-12-25T20:56:19Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Or they are thinking, but using an enormous amount of bad data and worse epistemology. Don’t forget an ironclad commitment to apologia, plus a willful blindness to the difference between that and honest debate. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/44 "2012-12-25T21:42:05Z")
> [@monavis](#): > > I don’t think they are Morans, they just let someone else do their thinking. Whale oil beef hooked! Wire ya bringinin the Morans? Will the O’Reillys be next? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/45 "2012-12-26T02:59:47Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Depends on the person. Not all retarded people are mindless zombies- their thought processes are literally retarded (slowed down). Given enough time to consider it they _can_ put 2 and 2 together. That’s true. I guess when I hear “retarded” I tend to think of my retarded cousin; he can’t put 2 and 2 together, he can barely use human speech; he lives in a group home. You would never make him understand the concept of AGW nor of the Biblical end times. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/46 "2012-12-26T05:48:34Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That’s true. I guess when I hear “retarded” I tend to think of my retarded cousin; he can’t put 2 and 2 together, he can barely use human speech; he lives in a group home. You would never make him understand the concept of AGW nor of the Biblical end times. I can dig it. It really depends on what is the cause and how severe it is. There are some people with Down’s syndrome around here who hold jobs and seem to have pretty normal lives. They are polite, they joke around with you sometimes, they are mostly like anyone else, except that you can tell they are retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/47 "2012-12-26T06:37:35Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Depends on the person. Not all retarded people are mindless zombies- their thought processes are literally retarded (slowed down). Given enough time to consider it they _can_ put 2 and 2 together. > > Maybe it is an unfortunate direction to pull the thread since overall I agree with the OP. Anyway, I have realized since that post that being a true-blue fundamentalist is actually worse than being retarded. A retarded person simply thinks more slowly, while a fundamentalist _cannot think at all_, at least not about these kinds of questions. As I see it fundies and such are fools or crazy, not (necessarily) stupid. They are irrational, not just slow-minded. A stupid person can be competent within their limits; an irrational person is going to make bad decisions regardless of how smart or stupid they are. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/48 "2012-12-26T06:48:50Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > A while back I started hearing about “Dominionists” who want a Calvinist revolution or something, and a lot of people are scared. > > But, see, those guys are a step up from the fundies I knew growing up, back in the Cold War when Pat Robertson was pushing the idea of nuclear Armageddon. Dominionists at least want to live in this world so they can rule it with an iron fist. The Apocalyptics don’t give a crap about physical reality, because everything is a “passing vapor” to be “destroyed in nuclear fire.” But they still vote. > > Argh. Great job advocating mass murder on the above post. :rolleyes: If they actually didn’t give a crap about physical reality, the Evangelicals wouldn’t be supporting the Patriot Act, the various wars against terrorism, calling for tightened border security, or buying guns for self-defence. This is a simple case of not believing Global Warming is man-made or occurring at all. Also quite a few poll respondents said yes to both: > [@](#): > > PRRI research director Daniel Cox said that some respondents - including 75 percent of non-white Protestants - believe extreme weather is both evidence of end times and the result of climate change. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/49 "2012-12-26T07:14:10Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Great job advocating mass murder on the above post. :rolleyes: 😕 Who shot who in the what, now?! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/50 "2012-12-26T07:15:45Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > If they actually didn’t give a crap about physical reality, the Evangelicals wouldn’t be supporting the Patriot Act, the various wars against terrorism, calling for tightened border security, or buying guns for self-defence. Nobody who gives a crap about physical reality would care about any of those things. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/51 "2012-12-26T07:18:03Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 😕 Who shot who in the what, now?! Here… > [@](#): > > I was raised fundamentalist Christian, and\*\* I’m being quite serious when I say I am afraid that there are great numbers of evangelicals who may simply have to be killed so they can’t vote anymore–so the planet can survive.\*\* > > I have thought one variation or another of this off and on since childhood. > > Scary, scary thinking. They can seem really nice, and then you realize they’re basically the worse version of Cthulhu cultists, because they don’t have the good grace to break out the twisty knives and sacrifice themselves to their dark god first. Oh, no, they’ll wreck the whole planet, while soothing that it’s OK, because Geezus. > > **Seriously. Kill them off,** or we all get to enjoy total environmental collapse. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/52 "2012-12-26T07:54:07Z")
I cop to it. Seriously, I grew up around a style of apocalyptic Christianity where Jesus was assumed by many people to be returning “soon,” with this as an excuse for environmental indifference. If they’re going to hasten ecological disaster in hopes that their living god will make it irrelevant by returning to inflict worse disaster (by dissolving the physical world), then it is not disproportionate to dissolve their physical forms. I should be merciful, right? I should try to educate people so they can live in this world sustainably? OK, great. But sooner or later, the Christian/capitalist axis of stupid will wreck the world. And then great numbers of people die anyway. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/53 "2012-12-26T13:00:30Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I can dig it. It really depends on what is the cause and how severe it is. There are some people with Down’s syndrome around here who hold jobs and seem to have pretty normal lives. They are polite, they joke around with you sometimes, they are mostly like anyone else, except that you can tell they are retarded. Having had a sister with Downs (who died at age 57) was the sweetest person one could know. She would never dream of harming anyone,so maybe we need more people to copy her? ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/54 "2012-12-26T13:09:00Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > I cop to it. Seriously, I grew up around a style of apocalyptic Christianity where Jesus was assumed by many people to be returning “soon,” with this as an excuse for environmental indifference. > > If they’re going to hasten ecological disaster in hopes that their living god will make it irrelevant by returning to inflict worse disaster (by dissolving the physical world), then it is not disproportionate to dissolve their physical forms. > > I should be merciful, right? I should try to educate people so they can live in this world sustainably? > > OK, great. But sooner or later, the Christian/capitalist axis of stupid will wreck the world. And then great numbers of people die anyway. If they would read (and think about) what is written in their Bible they would notice that Jesus is quoted as saying the world would end in that generation…it didn’t end, so I think the early teachers had to make up some reason why it didn’t end, and decided generation didn’t mean it like it does to us now, but Matthew, who was one of the writers who wrote that, also used the same word for generation when he wrote there was 14 generations between David and Jesus! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/55 "2012-12-26T13:16:52Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > They are polite, they joke around with you sometimes, they are mostly like anyone else, except that you can tell they are retarded. I see small groups of people from a local group home at my business. Usually two or three residents with one “counselor/overseer/whateveryoucallthem”. Sometimes it’s difficult determining who in the group is the responsible party I should be addressing. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/56 "2012-12-26T13:21:21Z")
If Jesus was quoted correctly, then he would cancel out the Book of Revalations, He is quoted as saying, He would return in His father’s glory with is angels while some of them standing there listening to him would not have seen death…It didn’t happen… or why wasn’t it recorded? some I have asked, say it was at the Ressurection,but that was sort of secret, some say the Transfiguration, but there were no angels there either. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/57 "2012-12-26T18:52:49Z")
False prophet quoted falsely, with false doctrines added as embellishments in later centuries, then more false doctrines embraced by reformers and splinter factions. It’s falsehood all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/58 "2012-12-27T02:19:33Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > I cop to it. Seriously, I grew up around a style of apocalyptic Christianity where Jesus was assumed by many people to be returning “soon,” with this as an excuse for environmental indifference. > > If they’re going to hasten ecological disaster in hopes that their living god will make it irrelevant by returning to inflict worse disaster (by dissolving the physical world), then it is not disproportionate to dissolve their physical forms. > > I should be merciful, right? I should try to educate people so they can live in this world sustainably? > > OK, great. But sooner or later, the Christian/capitalist axis of stupid will wreck the world. And then great numbers of people die anyway. Considering we survived the Marxist Leninist axis of stupidity regarding environmental matters, I’m not too worried if we can get serious about nuclear power ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/59 "2012-12-27T04:48:41Z")
The damage to the territory of the former USSR is ongoing. And it’s not just apocalyptic American-style Christianist capitalism. That’s just a particularly unrealistic excuse. People look for excuses for what they’re trying to do anyway. Capital, democratic socialism, progressivism, they all do damage to the world that feeds us. It all comes back to trying to do too much without enough of a sustainable resource base. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010/60 "2012-12-27T07:17:28Z")
> [@monavis](#): > > Having had a sister with Downs (who died at age 57) was the sweetest person one could know. She would never dream of harming anyone,so maybe we need more people to copy her? I have never got the “evangelical stink-eye” from a person afflicted with Down’s syndrome even one time. On the contrary, I have never encountered a Down’s sufferer who was anything but very kind. Autistics on the other hand can go any which way, sometimes allright, sometimes not, really depends on the individual case. > [@kayaker](#): > > I see small groups of people from a local group home at my business. Usually two or three residents with one “counselor/overseer/whateveryoucallthem”. > > Sometimes it’s difficult determining who in the group is the responsible party I should be addressing. Right, it is as if these cases open a window into what are the aspects of the human spectrum, and indicate that probably, “think fast!” is not the trait that makes people likeable, or responsible, or moral. Frankly neither is “evangelical/fundamentalist” necessarily indicative of those things either. Terribly vexing question. “Not-thinking” can actually be a very fine virtue, a road to enlightenment even, but I don’t know how to delineate what kind is and isn’t the right kind. For example, a couple of [Tao](http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/core9/phalsall/texts/taote-v3.html) quotes: "Empty your mind of all thoughts."[16](http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/core9/phalsall/texts/taote-v3.html#16) “Stop thinking, and end your problems.” [20](http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/core9/phalsall/texts/taote-v3.html#20) These ideas don’t seem very valuable in the face of AGW though, yet wouldn’t contradict it either, if a person were honest and informed. Harrumph! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-worry-about-the-planet-god-is-going-to-wreck-this-shit-anyway/644010.md?page=4)