# Don't you hate repetitious redundancies? (Very mild rant)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914 "2004-10-29T20:03:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/1 "2004-10-29T20:03:58Z")

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I just saw a commercial which mentioned an “unexpected surprise,” as if there were any other kind. On TV they are always touting “free” gifts, and telling us that their unique product is one of a kind. Don’t you just hate that?

What other repetitious redundancies can you think of?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/2 "2004-10-29T20:13:58Z")

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The electronic debit card readers at my gas station and grocery store both say “Please enter your PIN number”. You would think that all of the time and money that went into developing those things, someone would have noticed.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/3 "2004-10-29T20:15:18Z")

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Not redundant per se, but certainly superfluous, is the claim that “We’ll beat anyone’s price, or it’s free.” I find it highly unlikely that they would go for the latter option, so it’s really equivalent to merely saying, “We’ll beat anyone’s price.”

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/4 "2004-10-29T20:21:25Z")

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There’s an ad running on the radio here about a car dealer’s end-of-model-year sale. Apparently, it’s the “last and final” sale of the season.

I also recall being irritated about another ad for something that was “easy and simple” to use.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/5 "2004-10-29T20:30:05Z")

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“Added bonus” “Available options”

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/6 "2004-10-29T21:15:31Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> The electronic debit card readers at my gas station and grocery store both say “Please enter your PIN number”. You would think that all of the time and money that went into developing those things, someone would have noticed.

Well, see the problem is the alternative is to say “Please enter your PI Number” and then you’d have people entering 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 all the time … 🆒

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/7 "2004-10-29T21:27:03Z")

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I myself will take a brief moment to repeat again that it’s a true fact that empty space is compeletely filled with exactly the same freezing cold subatomic particles that each and every knoweldgable expert and fellow colleague, in a consensus of opinion combined together from past experience, has made crystal clear is absolutely necessary.

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**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/8 "2004-10-29T21:39:59Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I myself will take a brief moment to repeat again that it’s a true fact that empty space is compeletely filled with exactly the same freezing cold subatomic particles that each and every knoweldgable expert and fellow colleague, in a consensus of opinion combined together from past experience, has made crystal clear is absolutely necessary.

Wow! All in one single sentence!

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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/9 "2004-10-30T01:13:42Z")

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Department of Redundancy Department

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**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/10 "2004-10-30T01:44:20Z")

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An elderly man once told me he was ‘always in constant pain’.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/11 "2004-10-30T01:53:19Z")

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[I blame New Zealand.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=96309)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/12 "2004-10-30T05:05:48Z")

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The conductor on the train into town:

“This will be our last and final station stop.”

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**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/13 "2004-10-30T05:58:39Z")

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One that always jarred me when I heard it was a Sears year-end sale commercial in which the announcer trumpeted, “It only comes but once a year.”

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/14 "2004-10-30T06:06:56Z")

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No doubt everyone hates hearing about **ATM Machines** and those darned **SAT Tests**. Yes, I know these have been mentioned before but I thought it was worth repeating again once more for a second time.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/15 "2004-10-30T06:14:28Z")

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> compeletely filled

How is this redundant? After all, you can partially fill something.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/16 "2004-10-30T06:15:46Z")

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Never mind. Sorry. Late night brain fart thing.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/17 "2004-10-30T10:15:07Z")

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“Repetitious redundancies” is a repetitious redundancy. “Tautology” is more succinct.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/18 "2004-10-30T12:17:39Z")

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One of my dad’s favorite lines:

“I have reiterated over and over again what I have said before.”

He often had, too. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/19 "2004-10-30T13:16:32Z")

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What I hate are those commercials that say “no other razor gives you a closer shave than XXXXX” and “no other detergent makes your laundry cleaner than YYYYY”. I want to scream “no other razor _than what_???”.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dont-you-hate-repetitious-redundancies-very-mild-rant/271914/20 "2004-10-30T13:18:35Z")

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The claim isn’t about the razor; it’s about the shave. So, it’s a closer shave than all other razors.

(Did I do better? :))

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