# Doom (2016) is so much fun!

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 19, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575 "2017-03-19T23:10:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/42 "2017-03-28T01:42:54Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I did have to listen to the standard BGM and noises because how else would I know of the secret room if I didn’t hear the far-off sound of a door opening when I did xyz?

Yep.

I rather like the “Momento Mori” WAD.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/43 "2017-03-29T00:05:14Z")

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Well, OK I downloaded Doom for PS4 last night, and have never played any Doom games before. I have a lot of crap to figure out. I haven’t fully passed any shoot-em-ups yet, because I run out of ammo. I am not very good at switching back and forth between weapons, finding new ammo, and keeping my health for very long. I believe the entry level pistol I have has unlimited ammo, but is not very powerful. I have some things to figure out here.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/44 "2017-03-29T01:31:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Well, OK I downloaded Doom for PS4 last night, and have never played any Doom games before. I have a lot of crap to figure out. I haven’t fully passed any shoot-em-ups yet, because I run out of ammo. I am not very good at switching back and forth between weapons, finding new ammo, and keeping my health for very long. I believe the entry level pistol I have has unlimited ammo, but is not very powerful. I have some things to figure out here.

Well, yes.  
The first thing I tried to do in Doom and Doom II was kill a guy for the shotgun.

There was a shotgun in the room where the demon was throwing fireballs, come to think of it.

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**Author:** ![catweasel1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@catweasel1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catweasel1)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/45 "2017-03-29T03:07:08Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Well, OK I downloaded Doom for PS4 last night, and have never played any Doom games before. I have a lot of crap to figure out. I haven’t fully passed any shoot-em-ups yet, because I run out of ammo. I am not very good at switching back and forth between weapons, finding new ammo, and keeping my health for very long. I believe the entry level pistol I have has unlimited ammo, but is not very powerful. I have some things to figure out here.

I think if u do a glory kill especially with a chainsaw they drop ammo

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**Author:** ![Mavic\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mavic\_Chen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavic_Chen)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/46 "2017-03-29T12:06:20Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Agreed with everyone else – Doom 2016 got it right. Lot of fun, never got old. Silly plot could afford to be silly. How well it ran on my system was insane.
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> Interestingly, the last FPS I really enjoyed before that was the reboot of the Wolfenstein franchise (The New Order/The Old Blood). It’s the 90’s all over again!

Absolutely, those Wolfy games were GREAT. Doom downloading now 🙂

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/47 "2017-03-30T01:27:20Z")

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Starting to get the hang of Doom here. This game is a freaking riot!

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/48 "2017-03-30T01:35:51Z")

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Biggest self-taught tip for myself was “Never stop moving”. Unlike a lot of shooters where you want to stay still (often behind cover) and try and pick people off, Doom is all about running/jumping constantly while shooting like a maniac.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/49 "2017-03-30T02:24:30Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Biggest self-taught tip for myself was “Never stop moving”. Unlike a lot of shooters where you want to stay still (often behind cover) and try and pick people off, Doom is all about running/jumping constantly while shooting like a maniac.

I’m learning that too but I often find it difficult to make out enemies from the background when I’m moving. Once of the advantages of 90s graphics was that they tend to be more legible. In Doom 2016, highly detailed brown imps don’t have a clean silhouette against highly detailed brown ground.

Is Doom 2016 available in VR? Adding depth perception might make it easier to distinguish characters from background.

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**Author:** ![catweasel1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3da27b/32.png) [@catweasel1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catweasel1)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/50 "2017-03-31T08:24:35Z")

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> [@MichaelEmouse](#):
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> …Is Doom 2016 available in VR? Adding depth perception might make it easier to distinguish characters from background.

I don’t know if it is available to the general public but it has been available to some people in VR:

BTW I’ve played a VR version of Serious Sam but my fingers got really tired having to pull the trigger of the initial gun too many times.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/51 "2017-03-31T13:55:41Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Biggest self-taught tip for myself was “Never stop moving”. Unlike a lot of shooters where you want to stay still (often behind cover) and try and pick people off, Doom is all about running/jumping constantly while shooting like a maniac.

There are at least two wait screen tips to this effect. I like “Hell devours the indolent.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/52 "2017-03-31T14:37:30Z")

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I saw one yesterday (I don’t recall the exact text) that said:  
“If your enemy has a head, it’s a weak spot.”

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/53 "2017-03-31T14:58:39Z")

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My daughter bought this game for me as a Christmas present but my pseudo-gaming laptop couldn’t push more than 12fps at minimum settings. Having the excuse I needed to build a better gaming rig, I did and am having a laugh riot with this game! FWIW, I am now capable of 190fps at 1080p, on a 75htz monitor I don’t get much tearing that I can see. The optimization in this game is incredible.

I tend to be the stalk-in, take as many hidden shots from cover as I can, FPS player, DOOM is not that kind of game.

> [@bobot](#):
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> I saw one yesterday (I don’t recall the exact text) that said:  
> “If your enemy has a head, it’s a weak spot.”

That is one of my favourite tips too 🙂

I am playing it slowly as I tend to get stuck in certain battles. No spoilers though but the moment after getting to hell for the second time has me in stitches… The dev team did really well with this game!

ETA: Tip for those starting out, weakening your enemy and going for the glory kill is, at least for me, the only way to gain enough ammo and health to make it through some of the battles.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/54 "2017-03-31T15:24:53Z")

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> [@FordPrefect](#):
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> I tend to be the stalk-in, take as many hidden shots from cover as I can, FPS player, DOOM is not that kind of game.

Yes, I depend a lot on sniping and range work when I play FPS and FPS/RPG crossovers. Saves wear and tear on the armor.

But DOOM is more… _ **RRRRRRAARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH!** _

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> ETA: Tip for those starting out, weakening your enemy and going for the glory kill is, at least for me, the only way to gain enough ammo and health to make it through some of the battles.

_ **RARGH** _ helps here, too.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/55 "2017-03-31T15:52:37Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Yes, I depend a lot on sniping and range work when I play FPS and FPS/RPG crossovers. Saves wear and tear on the armor.
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> But DOOM is more… _ **RRRRRRAARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH!** _

Indeed, and in some cases giggling like a little kid while \*\*\*RRRRRRAARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHH!\*\*\*ing around the room at full speed, changing weapons depending on the demon bearing down on me 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/56 "2017-04-01T21:15:57Z")

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Prior to playing Doom I have played, most recent first: Skyrim deluxe whatever edition, Fallout 4, and GTAV.  
Unlike those games (excepting GTAV to some degree) I am finding something I should have expected, but didn’t about Doom. Have more than a few beers, and you SUCK at this game. Even if it’s on a Saturday, and there’s no work, and the sun is out, and it’s still early.  
I’m stuck in what I believe is the last fight of the Foundry section, and dammit, I think I’m gonna have to wait till tomorrow morning to try beating this one!

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/57 "2017-04-02T01:58:33Z")

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This game is a RIOT! I just started playing it, I’m out on the surface of Mars now, I have the upgraded pistol and shotgun and the chainsaw, though I’ve not used that yet.

The glowing green grenade boxes…how the hell do you open those? I’ve shot them, thrown frag grenades at them, hit them with “F”…am I just not allowed to access them yet? I keep seeing them and I want to know what’s inside!

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/58 "2017-04-02T13:00:50Z")

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I believe you used the space bar in Doom I &II to use things.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/59 "2017-04-02T15:15:04Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> The glowing green grenade boxes…how the hell do you open those? I’ve shot them, thrown frag grenades at them, hit them with “F”…am I just not allowed to access them yet? I keep seeing them and I want to know what’s inside!

Seconding the question.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/60 "2017-04-02T16:07:59Z")

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I don’t have the game accessible to check but my bunch is that it’s a grenade (or ammo, armor) box that you’re trying to interact with when you have full grenades (or armor or ammo). I don’t remember any supply boxes being any sort of trick or puzzle.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-2016-is-so-much-fun/782575/61 "2017-04-02T23:55:53Z")

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Holy crap, I had to turn the difficulty level down from “hurt me plenty” to “I’m too young to die” to get past the final few Hell Knights in the foundry. Jaysus. I set it back right after the mission. I was out of chainsaw fuel, which I think would have helped me, and I sure couldn’t find more.  
As to those grenade boxes, it seems like if I have one or two grenades in my inventory, the boxes don’t do anything. If I’m out, I think they make with one or two, but I’m not certain.

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