# DOOM - any suggestions for a current replacement **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 30, 2001, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728 "2001-06-30T14:37:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/1 "2001-06-30T14:37:38Z")
I’m visiting the US soon, and wanna buy one or two shoot em up computer games. Don’t have to be the latest 'cause I’m 3 years out of date. I loved Doom, like Duke Nukem. Anything more recent out there in the genre I should pick up? I really liked Half Life, anything better but in the same vein? ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/2 "2001-06-30T15:09:04Z")
I suggest Hoyle Card Games. Just kidding. Red Faction looks cool, I’m not sure if it’s out yet though. You can literally destroy everything, even walls and floors. Can’t find a passcode for a door? Make a new door with a rocket launcher! ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/3 "2001-06-30T15:12:16Z")
You should tell us what type of CPU and graphics card you have. Also, if you can’t find this thread again, it was probably moved from “General Questions” to “In My Humble Opinion” or possibly “MPSIMS”. ---
**Author:** ![Dog\_Wonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@Dog\_Wonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog_Wonder)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/4 "2001-06-30T15:17:58Z")
Hi China Guy, If you have a fast computer (at least a PIII-500) I would definitely recommend DeusEx. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/5 "2001-06-30T17:31:32Z")
Yeah, this is pretty much a matter of opinion, of course, so I’ll shoot (heh) it over to IMHO for you. ---
**Author:** ![BlueMoonofKentucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@BlueMoonofKentucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueMoonofKentucky)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/6 "2001-06-30T17:58:01Z")
If you could give your CPU, RAM and Video card specs it would be helpful, as things have changed alot in game requirements over the last 3 yrs… Here are my recommendations (assuming system capacity) Half-Life w/ Team Fortress Classic 2 multiplayer mod.This will download automatically if you try to connect to a half-life server if you do not have the current TFC build. IMHO Team Fortress is the best Multiplayer game around, multiple classes with unique abilties and good team-oriented maps Soldier of Fortune WAY violent and Way enjoyable Tribes 2, like TFC Enjoy-BMoK ---
**Author:** ![skaffen\_amiskaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@skaffen\_amiskaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skaffen_amiskaw)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/7 "2001-06-30T21:04:33Z")
try “serious sam”. basically, the straightforwardness, gore and wonderful simplicity of doom, with nice, modern 3D graphics. an update of a classic formula. or, if you like soldier-sim realism, try “operation flashpoint”. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2001, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/8 "2001-06-30T23:57:29Z")
I, too, will recommend _Serious Sam_. The levels are HUGE, the guns are awesome (the best minigun EVER in a computer game), and you blow lotsa stuff up. And I mean LOTS of stuff. The body count at the end of each level exceeds the total body count in an entire episode of Doom. _Deus Ex_ is also amazing, but, unfortunately, it’s been VERY glitchy on all three of the machines we have at home. We probably need to fiddle around with something or other to get it to work… If you liked _Half-Life_, then you should also pick up_Blue Shift_. It’s an expansion pack (and it also comes with _Opposing Forces_, another expansion pack) that features a whole new single-player campaign, AND promises to upgrade the graphics of ALL your Half-Life games. If you can still find it, I would HIGHLY recommend picking up _Unreal Gold_. It should run around ten bucks. It’s older than some other games, but it’s VERY fun to play. Also, if you really liked _Doom_ (as I did), you can download - for free - [_Doom Legacy_](http://legacy.newdoom.com/). It upgrades the graphics and playability of _Doom_ considerably (you can JUMP! And look UP and DOWN!! Amazing!!). It makes the Doom experience far more enjoyable. Finally… _Doom 3_ is in the works. Keep an eye out for it. ---
**Author:** ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/9 "2001-07-01T01:32:01Z")
Can’t believe that nobody has suggested **Unreal Tournament** yet. Great multiplayer. Smart bots for single-player. No story to speak of, but great gameplay. For a great story and gameplay, try **System Shock 2**. It’s a little older and you can probably find it for a good price. ---
**Author:** ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/10 "2001-07-01T01:36:44Z")
Another suggestion: come back in 3 more years and buy **Duke Nukem Forever** , it should be coming out around then. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/11 "2001-07-01T01:37:31Z")
I’ve got the following config Pentium III processor 128 mb ram Not sure what kind of graphics card I have as it’s my home PC, but I was able to play Decent 3 no problem. thanks ---
**Author:** ![Piell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@Piell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Piell)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/12 "2001-07-01T01:37:55Z")
Another vote for Serious Sam here. I got it a few days ago, and it is my favorite game already. Well, except for Baldur’s Gate II. ---
**Author:** ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/13 "2001-07-01T02:38:57Z")
**Rogue Spear** is a great highly realistic squad-based game. The planning phase of an assault is almost as fun as getting to put a few holes into the terrorists during the actual attack. Gotta second the votes for **Serious Sam** and **Team Fortress Classic 2**. Excellent games. Good hunting. ---
**Author:** ![seriousart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@seriousart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seriousart)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/14 "2001-07-01T05:46:15Z")
Unreal Tournament all the way. Great AI for bots. Not much of a story for one player game, merely increasingly difficult challenges/ shoot em ups. But then I usually find video game plot-lines pretty annoying and tedious anyways. And for on-line multiplayer, it’s tops as well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Fromesiter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Fromesiter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fromesiter)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/15 "2001-07-01T06:27:17Z")
I third Serious Sam. Tribes is cool, although Tribes 2 needs a monster machine to run it, so I’d stick with good old vanilla Tribes. Get Halflife if you don’t have it. TFC, Firearms, and Frontline Force are all great mods for multiplay. Get They Hunger for single player fun. Get Rouge Spear and the addon packs for it if you want a little “glock glock” fun. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/16 "2001-07-01T06:58:19Z")
If your comp is anemic, you might see if you can find a copy of Lucasarts **Outlaws** , the western shooter. Great setting and amazing soundtrack. And the first Sniper Rifle in any shooter. 🙂 – See you, Space Cowboy . . . ---
**Author:** ![Ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Ross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ross)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/17 "2001-07-01T08:55:10Z")
Deus Ex is great. But for goodness’ sake buy and enjoy Quake II. It’s far in the past now but you’ll have a great old blast. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/18 "2001-07-01T10:05:35Z")
I can’t believe I haven’t mentioned Diablo II… it’s not a first-person shooter, but it’s an amazingly great game (and, coming from a guy who’d rather play Q3 or Counterstrike than have sex, that’s saying a lot). ---
**Author:** ![Father\_Pacelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Father\_Pacelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Father_Pacelli)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2001, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/19 "2001-07-01T10:41:45Z")
I recommend Zork by Infocom. You can legally download it for free off the Web. [http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/](http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/) There ya go. 😃 Games with graphics suck bollocks. TEXT FOREVER! ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2001, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728/20 "2001-07-02T06:09:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Father Pacelli \* > \*\*I recommend Zork by Infocom. You can legally download it for free off the Web. \*\* Bwahahahahha. Suckered me in with that download for free jazz. What, are you high? You musst be if you think this is intertainment? Thanks for the help [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doom-any-suggestions-for-a-current-replacement/70728.md?page=2)