# Dope lawyers: Do demons have legal rights in the US?

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**Created:** [February 11, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633 "2018-02-11T17:16:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/1 "2018-02-11T17:16:57Z")

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So, before she moved in, Melania Trump had a team exorcise the White House of the demons brought in by the Clintons and the Obamas. Because apparently the demons [have legal right to stay at a location as long as their artifacts are present](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/02/10/bryan-fischer-demons-had-legal-right-to-live-in-white-house-until-exorcism/). So if a demon is kicked out of a location without having his stuff removed, does he have standing to sue in US courts?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/2 "2018-02-11T17:23:03Z")

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That sounds just like her crazy ass. But, I am more afraid of the crap Trump flushes. The sewer system in D.C. will never survive!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/3 "2018-02-11T17:23:05Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> So, before she moved in, Melania Trump had a team exorcise the White House of the demons brought in by the Clintons and the Obamas. Because apparently the demons [have legal right to stay at a location as long as their artifacts are present](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/02/10/bryan-fischer-demons-had-legal-right-to-live-in-white-house-until-exorcism/). So if a demon is kicked out of a location without having his stuff removed, does he have standing to sue in US courts?

Demons have the same rights as ghosts and zombies.

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**Author:** ![sevenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@sevenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sevenwood)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/4 "2018-02-11T17:28:42Z")

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Before we all get too excited, everyone please note that the article quoted in the OP mentions that the claim (and the claimer) has zero credibility.

(I got too excited with my original response.)

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/5 "2018-02-11T18:20:03Z")

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Angels, demons, and other spiritual beings do not count as “persons” under U.S. law. Otherwise, [demonic binding rituals](https://authenticfreedomacademy.com/classes-spiritual-self-actualization/online-and-e-courses/demon-binding-banishing-ritual/) would be a violation of the 13th Amendment.

The Conservative commentator seems a bit confused about what “laws” actually mean here. While it’s “true” (if you believe in this claptrap) that demons & spiritual energies will often to a physical totem, and it’s imperative to dispose of that totem in order to dispose of the demon, that function does not operate under democratic law or any kind of human-based law. It’s like rolling a rock downhill – the rock’s gonna roll, even if Congress passes a law forbidding it to do so.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/6 "2018-02-11T19:11:08Z")

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Demons have the best lawyers to represent them.

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**Author:** ![NeonMadman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58f4c7/32.png) [@NeonMadman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NeonMadman)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/7 "2018-02-13T22:18:36Z")

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If a demon filed suit against me, I’d probably be sufficiently freaked out to settle quickly.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/8 "2018-02-13T22:27:10Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> Demons have the best lawyers to represent them.

Of course, they are represented by Devil’s Advocates.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-lawyers-do-demons-have-legal-rights-in-the-us/808633/9 "2018-02-13T22:30:35Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Demons have the same rights as **ghosts and zombies.**

Hey. They prefer “metabolically-impaired.” :mad:
