# Dope Trek - A guide to the inside jokes and other FAQs in the Trek/Enterprise threads

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 11, 2003, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896 "2003-10-11T20:26:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/41 "2003-10-13T17:50:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*Keckler, the reviewer for Enterprise at [www.televisionwithoutpity.com](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com), always refers to the MACOs as the Uh-Ohs and to Archer as Quantum. She’s got her own vocabulary. \*\*

Should we call the MACOs something corny also? I’m thinking Maroons or MACAronis…  
–carnivorousplant, unless those are actually funny, then Tars Tarkas

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/42 "2003-10-13T17:54:55Z")

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I suggest we call them **Berts**. Since Bert Reynolds is MAACO’s current spokeslizard.

- Tars Wages

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/43 "2003-10-13T18:04:51Z")

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Oooo! Oooo! Can the Xindi then be called **Ernies**?

– vivalostplant

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/44 "2003-10-13T18:51:42Z")

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What the frelling hay is going on here?

Note: If **NoClueBoy** ever tries to tell any of you that “her name is Goo,” just remember: It’s Antonia."\*

\*(an even more obscure reference than “panda”)

–AesirVanpelt

Was Roy Horn ever mauled by the panda?

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**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/45 "2003-10-13T21:38:15Z")

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Psssst…

It’s **Burt** Reynolds.

I don’t post enough in the Trek threads to be considered a regular, and I don’t have the status of the “bigtime” posters who occasionally grace the threads with their wisdom. I don’t have a $100 bill to add, either; this is not a complaint but an obsevation.

I’ve been a Trekker from the age of five, when I saw the original broadcast of “Space Seed.” I put up with the nerd jokes all through school, I paid my dues. The conclusion I’ve come to is that even bad Trek is better than none at all, and if it wasn’t for Trek influence there would be not nearly as much interest in Sci-Fi in general.

There has always been Panda in Trek- hell, Gene Rodenberry gave his girlfriend the ultimate roles in the series (she couldn’t star, or he may have done that- he did try to make her First Officer but the network didn’t like it); Yeoman Rand and Uhura showed more leg and cleavage than was necessary for the story; and Kirk’s legendary prowess with hot co-stars kept the Panda happy. It’s a part of TV, not just Trek- why else would Kevin James be paired off with Leah Remini instead of someone more “realistic” like Roseanne? The same reason that you won’t see a hot love scene on Trek between an actor in a rubber mask and an alien in the form of a tub of goo.

As far as the MACOs go, do you think that the Powers That Be will stay consistent with the guest stars playing the parts? Or will there be random actors being used as they are hired? I thought that Daniel Dae Kim was a good addition to the guest cast, with his background in Crusade and 24. I wonder if that was a one-time guest shot?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/46 "2003-10-13T21:49:34Z")

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Daniel Dae Kim will be on at least once more. Some of the others will be back occasionally. B&B have said they don’t want the MACOs to upstage the regulars.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/47 "2003-10-13T22:10:55Z")

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OK, I got a no-clue-trek question: Who’s b&b ?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/48 "2003-10-13T22:24:44Z")

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B&B-- Berman and Braga, the Executive Producers of Enterprise and handlers of Trek’s reins for the moment. Berman was “chosen” by Roddenberry, and Bragga was banging Jeri Ryan. Braga wrote some good episodes, but doesn’t like continuing story arcs, and is fascinated by time travel stories.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/49 "2003-10-13T23:23:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Steelerphan \*  
> **a hot love scene on Trek between an actor in a rubber mask and an alien in the form of a tub of goo**

Ooo, I love it when you talk dirty.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/50 "2003-10-14T00:43:46Z")

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> Braga wrote some good episodes, but doesn’t like continuing story arcs, and is fascinated by time travel stories.

So Braga’s responsible for all of those godawful time travel episodes, eh?

[Sets phaser to “full disintegration.” Googles “Braga address Star Trek”]

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/51 "2003-10-14T00:54:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diceman \*  
> \*\*So Braga’s responsible for all of those godawful time travel episodes, eh?
> 
> [Sets phaser to “full disintegration.” Googles “Braga address Star Trek”] \*\*

Boy will you be ticked when later this season the Enterprise crew ends up in Present day Detroit

What are they doing there? I don’t know, but i bet it involves [spoiler]Hoshi becoming the female Asian Eminem, Hoshinem!

“_I’m sorry daddy!  
I never meant to hurt you!  
I never meant to make you cry; but tonight  
I’m devolving into goooooo!!!_”

(lyrics by carnivorousplant)[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/52 "2003-10-14T00:59:51Z")

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The BFST Reset Button™ was his creation. When it worked, like in V’ger’s _Year Of Hell_, it was awesome.

When it didn’t, it sucked so hard it bacame a new standard in suckitudeness.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/53 "2003-10-14T06:14:09Z")

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Berman and Braga = The Bermaga

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/54 "2003-10-14T08:49:23Z")

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By the by, just out of curiosity…which episode was it, exactly, where Hoshi looses her top?

The episode’s actual name (and airdate, if possible) would be most appreciated.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/55 "2003-10-14T11:41:09Z")

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Shockwave

But, I don’t recall if it was part I or II.  
Cliffhanger 1st season ender / 2nd season starter

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/56 "2003-10-14T13:19:17Z")

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Part two, after dropping out of a notjeffriestube.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/57 "2003-10-14T15:00:44Z")

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[Shockwave, part deaux](http://www.trektoday.com/images/news/shockwave2promo1_200116.jpg)

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/58 "2003-10-15T04:17:20Z")

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Too bad _Enterprise_ isn’t on ShowTime. They wouldn’t have to show topless Hoshi from the back…

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/59 "2003-10-15T04:21:23Z")

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Yeah, but then we’d be clamoring for pantsless Hoshi.

You just can’t win.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dope-trek-a-guide-to-the-inside-jokes-and-other-faqs-in-the-trek-enterprise-threads/206896/60 "2003-10-15T05:06:18Z")

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They can show that too, Aesiron. I would still complain, because she would be still be Tars-less Hoshi.

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