# Doper Attributes . Character Creation **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 18, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199 "2011-08-18T17:57:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/1 "2011-08-18T17:57:08Z")
let’s roll a character and name it Og! will Og be a tank, healer or dps? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/2 "2011-08-18T17:57:59Z")
Tank. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/3 "2011-08-18T18:11:00Z")
If Og’s a tank, why am I the first out of three voters to give him strength, and no one’s given him con yet? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/4 "2011-08-18T18:16:59Z")
I voted Constitution, as that is usually a good thing for tanks in any game system I’ve ever played. What game is Og going to be in? ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/5 "2011-08-18T18:37:53Z")
i always imagined Og as the dps sort (Og smash!), but i put the point in Intellect anyway as i usually play as a mage. it’s up to you what game you want Og in. personally i’m thinking World of Warcraft while using DnD attributes in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/6 "2011-08-18T19:04:37Z")
I am normally biased toward dex-based or magic-based offensive classes, but a name like Og implies he will be a beefy tank or crazed melee fighter. I chose CON. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/7 "2011-08-18T19:19:35Z")
Charisma in case he decides to be a 1st ed. AD&D paladin. ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/8 "2011-08-18T19:25:01Z")
Healer! Int! ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/9 "2011-08-18T20:10:59Z")
> [@sandra\_nz](#): > > Healer! Int! If those are D&D stats, healer would need Wis instead. WoW healers need Int of course and then there’s my WHFRP “healer” who casts blessings with Cha (ok, fellowship but it’s all the same). So yeah, putting a point in Cha – leaving that as a dump stat is so cliche. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Stowed\_Bob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stowed_bob/32/3312_2.png) [@Stowed\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stowed_Bob)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/10 "2011-08-18T20:16:27Z")
He needs the charisma to sell his intimidating power and deadliness, thus sparing him the hassle of bodily harm. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/11 "2011-08-18T23:46:18Z")
Og STRONG! Og smash! ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/12 "2011-08-19T01:57:14Z")
0 Dex? good thing he has a lot of constitution. He’ll need it as he keeps cutting off his own fingers and toes. ---
**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/13 "2011-08-19T02:58:43Z")
WTF? Og’s STR is 3, making it his 4th highest stat. Og weeps in shame. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/14 "2011-08-19T15:00:34Z")
A tank doesn’t have to be strong, just hard to kill. You often get better results by layering defenses–sure it’s great to have lots of hit points, but it’s even better to avoid losing them. This is true regardless of how many hit points you have, so it’s beneficial for DPS and support\* as well. Therefore, I chose to shore up poor Og’s currently pitiful Dexterity. \*Not all support characters are “healers”! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/15 "2011-08-20T06:50:06Z")
It takes a lot of constitution to fight the ignorance for all these years. CON all da way! ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/16 "2011-08-22T16:48:55Z")
Og’s Charisma and Con are the same. I guess we got a lovable boulder here. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/17 "2011-08-22T17:35:28Z")
I voted dex. Og dodge. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/18 "2011-08-22T18:15:16Z")
Well, hrm. Durability is the foremost thing I look for in a “tank” role, but there are different ways of getting it. For example, I used to pump the dex stat on a Diablo 2 Amazon, and with the right gear and skills, make a very sturdy layered-mitigation tank (for some limited situations, sturdier than a Barbarian). Still, even that build pumped vitality (D2’s equivalent of “constitution”) higher than dexterity. So I’ll pick “constitution,” but mostly as a metaphor for all methods of increasing a character’s durability. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/19 "2011-08-22T19:57:18Z")
So many MPSIMS threads seem to be about illness, weight gain, problems in the bedroom, etc. CON. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-attributes-character-creation/593199/20 "2011-09-06T16:48:55Z")
well, he does not even have enough points to be created but Og would have made for a surprisingly diversified and lovable meatshield. /hug ```auto Str 6 Dex 7 Con 12 Int 6 Wis 6 Cha 9 Voters: 46. ``` * * * Poll Conclusion Bump Card