# Doper Demographics

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [September 2, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834 "2022-09-02T19:22:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/103 "2022-09-11T18:19:02Z")

</div>

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
>
> If we don’t evolve, we’ll die

We had a thread about two years ago, predicting how much longer the SDMB would survive. I think I thought it would be gone by around late 2021. Glad I was wrong.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/104 "2022-09-15T12:32:57Z")

</div>

I’m 40. Joined in 2003. Other than Yahoo Mail and NFL. com for fantasy football, this might be the _only_ website I still actively visit from that era (as opposed to occasionally getting their via a link like, say, [cnn.com](http://cnn.com)). So there’s that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/105 "2022-09-16T03:08:48Z")

</div>

> [@Bullitt](#):
>
> Why don’t we have that banner (or subtitle) any more, about fighting ignorance?

? Am I the only one who still sees that fighting-ignorance-since-1973 subtitle in a red banner right underneath the blue banner at the top that reads “THE STRAIGHT DOPE MESSAGE BOARD The Straight Dope”?

I don’t think it’s ever not been there.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/106 "2022-09-16T03:13:09Z")

</div>

It’s there for me in New Topics, and in Unread Topics, and in Latest, and in Categories, and in individual category pages.

It isn’t there at the top of this thread; or, I think, at the top of individual threads in general.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/107 "2022-09-16T03:13:13Z")

</div>

> [@Kimstu](#):
>
> Am I the only one who still sees that fighting-ignorance-since-1973 subtitle in a red banner right underneath the blue banner at the top that reads “THE STRAIGHT DOPE MESSAGE BOARD The Straight Dope”?

It might be the board theme you’re using. I don’t see it when I go to [boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/108 "2022-09-16T03:14:29Z")

</div>

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
>
> It’s there for me in New Topics, and in Unread Topics, and in Latest, and in Categories, and in individual category pages.

I don’t see the “Fighting Ignorance” line on any of those. Weird.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/109 "2022-09-16T03:20:45Z")

</div>

Maybe it’s the interface. I’m in Straight Dope Light, Mac desktop, Firefox.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/110 "2022-09-16T03:27:45Z")

</div>

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
>
> Maybe it’s the interface.

I’m on Win10, and using the Discourse Classic interface. On both Firefox and Chrome, I don’t see the Fighting Ignorance banner when I’m logged in; when I’m logged out, and seeing what I assume is the default interface, I see the banner.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/111 "2022-09-16T07:20:35Z")

</div>

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
>
> I’m on Win10, and using the Discourse Classic interface. On both Firefox and Chrome, I don’t see the Fighting Ignorance banner when I’m logged in;

Same here, so I would guess that it is theme specific. I never log out so I haven’t seen the fighting ignorance line in a very long time.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/112 "2022-09-16T10:59:31Z")

</div>

Only the SD Dark and SD Light themes show the Fighting Ignorance banner.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/113 "2022-09-16T19:26:01Z")

</div>

I only see it when at the very top of a webpage.

~Max

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/114 "2022-09-16T19:50:50Z")

</div>

You’re right, that’s the difference: not whether it’s an individual thread. I see it at the top of individual threads also, if I’m all the way at the top of the page.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/115 "2022-09-16T22:17:21Z")

</div>

I’d thought about us moving to Reddit before, too, as a way of salvaging the Board if the money ran out. But the way Reddit is structured is just so different. Threaded conversations just work differently than general discussions, splitting off into multiple separate conversations. And most of actual content has some counterpart on Reddit already.

All I would see surviving is something kinda like a community chat room (ala the Facebook Group) and maybe CCC/SR.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/116 "2022-09-16T22:51:50Z")

</div>

There’s always usenet!

ETA: Actually looks like there _are_ (or were, not sure how that works) Straight Dope groups on usenet.

> [@Cecil on Usenet](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-on-usenet/77001):
>
> A Cecil Adams presence has been maintained on usenet in a couple froups, alt.fan.cecil-adams ([FAQ](http://mentock.home.mindspring.com/afca/afca-faq.htm)), and misc.facts.straight-dope.

Here’s the (active) `alt.fan.cecil-adams` newsgroup on Google’s Usenet interface:

[https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.cecil-adams](https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.cecil-adams)

`misc.facts.straight-dope` seems to have been overrun by spam.

~Max

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/117 "2022-09-17T03:08:17Z")

</div>

> [@Ulfreida](#):
>
> The board skews heavily white, male, and old.

Hey, I’m not _that_ heavy…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/118 "2022-09-17T03:30:10Z")

</div>

> [@Max\_S](#):
>
> There’s always usenet!
> 
> ETA: Actually looks like there _are_ (or were, not sure how that works) Straight Dope groups on usenet.

That’s how more that a few of us made it here to The Dope.I was on alt.fan.cecil-adams as far back as ‘94 or ‘95 and for many years after making my way over here, there were still names I recognized from Usenet.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/119 "2022-09-17T03:31:12Z")

</div>

The Usenet was so much fun. I was never in the Cecil group though

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/120 "2022-09-17T03:33:56Z")

</div>

Man, those were the good old days. I probably spent as many hours reading and posting to rec.motorcycles as I have to every site on the web in total in the years since.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/121 "2022-09-18T14:41:13Z")

</div>

> [@digs](#):
>
> Hey, I’m not _that_ heavy…

Hehhh

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MissMiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missmiss/32/12315_2.png) [@MissMiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissMiss)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834/122 "2022-10-13T15:08:33Z")

</div>

I just came back after a decade

50s white lady

It’s this format that I adore

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834.md?page=5)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-demographics/970834.md?page=7)
