# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/241 "2002-10-01T13:54:42Z")
I don’t know which you are, but I loved the entirely contradictory messages from France. Or someone posing as France. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/242 "2002-10-01T13:56:25Z")
I don’t think I would like the Black Press very much. I take it that it first goes through the GM, so as to edit out the (from) line and other identifying marks? I do, however, like the idea that you are transmitting your plan to your enemy, but it is drowned out in an sea of contradictory information. My guess would be Italy, or possibly Germany. And I don’t think I can wait until **RT** comes home from work for adjudication. **RT** you really look flushed. Why don’t you take a sick day and rest? If not, perhaps **White Lightning** could adjudicate the turn and let me know what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/243 "2002-10-01T14:10:31Z")
Sorry kids, guess I’m the culprit. I was on vacation over the weekend, came back late, and was promptly assaulted by work and personal matters of high priority. I didn’t check any of my email, and I completely forgot to submit my orders. Guess it’s up to **RT**. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/244 "2002-10-01T14:41:24Z")
My vote would be that one of the East Coasters give him a kick in the pants and have him submit orders pronto. A NMR at this point would _seriously_ topple the balance of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/245 "2002-10-01T14:56:13Z")
We can’t kick him in the pants. He’s from NYC. We’re still afraid Giuliani will come down here and kick our collective asses. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/246 "2002-10-01T15:05:32Z")
> [@](#): > > A NMR at this point would seriously topple the balance of the game. Actually, I don’t really think it would. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/247 "2002-10-01T15:07:13Z")
> [@](#): > > We’re still afraid Giuliani will come down here and kick our collective asses. Yeah, right. Like I voted for that asshole. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/248 "2002-10-01T15:30:59Z")
We have a full set of move orders. I’ll adjudicate when I get home - expect results in the 7:00-7:15pm EDT neighborhood. I have already more or less adjudicated this by hand here at the office, but I wouldn’t be able to update the map, and I like having the RealPolitik software check my work. Let me remind everyone that we’re **NOT** in a Diplomacy period, and that a _quick turnaround on retreats_ will help this evening, so people can decide where to build/disband by tomorrow morning. To facilitate that, I’ll shortly let everyone know (by individual emails) **whether** or not they’ll have to write retreat orders this evening. (You’ll find out then what unit(s) need to retreat, and what your options are. This will just be advance warning to be ready.) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/249 "2002-10-01T16:22:10Z")
I changed my mind - adjudication has been sent out by email. Since I did it by hand, please email me if you think I goofed. France and Russia, you have retreats. They should be straightforward. Get 'em in. We’re gonna have one funky map tonight. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/250 "2002-10-01T16:29:40Z")
Those were some strange moves. I sure goofed on one, at least. Looks like some others may have as well. Can’t wait to see the map tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/251 "2002-10-01T16:51:02Z")
All I can say is: **THANKS SHIBB.** ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/252 "2002-10-01T17:30:12Z")
Same to you, pal. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/253 "2002-10-01T17:34:54Z")
Whatcha gonna disband, there, Maeg? Hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/254 "2002-10-01T17:36:54Z")
You said I could come after Berlin. As little time as I gave these orders, did you think I’d miss a run on Sweden? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/255 "2002-10-01T18:01:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Maeglin \* > \*\*All I can say is: > > **THANKS SHIBB.** \*\* Mega-dittos from me. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/256 "2002-10-01T18:14:49Z")
I always knew you were a republican. You empire-builders always are. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/257 "2002-10-01T18:38:44Z")
It’s not an empire so much as a coalition. . . . of conquered states. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/258 "2002-10-01T18:41:11Z")
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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/259 "2002-10-01T20:31:46Z")
I’m sorry. Really I am. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2002, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/260 "2002-10-01T23:36:56Z")
And I still need some retreats. Get 'em in! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=14)