# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/381 "2002-10-10T20:04:04Z")
Yes, they are. Due tomorrow at 9 AM EST. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/382 "2002-10-11T13:05:09Z")
Tick tock, Tick tock Just like a little clock. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/383 "2002-10-11T13:38:45Z")
Give the guy a break. He said the moves are due at 9AM, not that he’d adjudicate then. Heck, 1022 was due at 7AM and I’m sitting here talking to **you** guys. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/384 "2002-10-11T14:29:53Z")
This probably won’t be as funny when I am running the game. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/385 "2002-10-11T14:36:14Z")
Done. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/386 "2002-10-11T14:58:20Z")
To, Lemur! Ready to talk? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/387 "2002-10-11T15:10:14Z")
‘Yo’ is really _hard_ to misspell. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/388 "2002-10-11T15:23:14Z")
Don’t lemurs have prehensile toes. Maybe that’s what he meant. **White Lightning** on the other hand. . . ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/389 "2002-10-11T17:29:01Z")
I doubt that I’d ever GM a game, but if I did, **Abe** would not be invited. Too many broken window panes would result. In other news, **McG** must have missed his eviction notices. Now I’ll have to send the Cossacks. And you see what happens. First the Austrians on my prime beachfront property in Rumania, now the English have invited themselves to see the lovely fjords in Sverige. A moose once bit my sister. And he’s going to bite the English on the ass if they don’t evacuate posthaste! ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/390 "2002-10-13T02:32:40Z")
They have moose in scadinavia? Who knew. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_alien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Go\_alien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_alien)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/391 "2002-10-14T08:10:16Z")
Everybody who isn’t North American. They’re called elks, but in USA/Canada elks are something else and suddenly it all gets confusing, proving yet again that the USA and Britain are two countries separated by a common language. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/392 "2002-10-14T09:46:30Z")
You’re telling me their elks aren’t the same as our elks, but they’re the same as our mooses? Or are there three different things? ---
**Author:** ![Go\_alien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Go\_alien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_alien)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/393 "2002-10-14T11:37:01Z")
In Sweden, the very large deer like ruminants are called elks. They are known for surprising motorists by jumping out in front of cars to make them swerve (the Elk Test, memorably failed by the Mercedes A series with much publicity a few years ago.) In North America, the very large deer like ruminants are called moose. The ones I saw in Alaska looked very like Swedish elks, but without the car jumping bit, so they are clearly a different species entirely. (This is based on driving through moose infested countryside and never being surprised by a jumping moose.) In North America, another large deer like ruminant is called an elk. As to its “car-jumping-in-front-of habits”, I cannot comment. I believe they are also called wapitis. This is strange, since the Westland aircraft company also made wapitis in the 1930’s. They were not large deer like ruminants but bombers. I assume they were also pretty good at surprising motorists, which brings us, via a very strained bit of circular logic, back to the motorist surprising Swedish elks. Besides, you’re the omniscient one, **Omniscient** , you should know. Or were you just testing us? ---
**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/394 "2002-10-14T16:49:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \* > \*\* In other news, **McG** must have missed his eviction notices. Now I’ll have to send the Cossacks. > > And you see what happens. First the Austrians on my prime beachfront property in Rumania, now the English have invited themselves to see the lovely fjords in Sverige. A moose once bit my sister. And he’s going to bite the English on the ass if they don’t evacuate posthaste! \*\* I apologize for not replying earlier. 2 factors prevented a courteous response. 1st this has to be the slowest message board in the history of civilized man. 2nd, the delicate layers of meaning you heaped into your prior message confused my Austrian inbred mind. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/395 "2002-10-14T16:59:43Z")
Fall 1904 move orders in Dip 1040 are due in the early a.m. tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/396 "2002-10-14T17:44:31Z")
I’m back. Sorry to be bothersome, but I’d appreciate it if you all would go back to emailing me at [amolochko@attbi.com](mailto:amolochko@attbi.com) again. I’ll continue checking both though, just in case. What a mess we’ve made, eh? I have to say that upon sober reflection my moves in 1046 look a little… strange. I want to say thanks for extending the 1040 deadline, I think that might have been a lot to handle. ‘Sleaze’, eh **Shibb**? We’ll see if that tune changes once _I’m_ the bully with the fleet in the Black. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/397 "2002-10-14T20:43:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Go alien \* > \*\*Everybody who isn’t North American. They’re called elks, but in USA/Canada elks are something else and suddenly it all gets confusing, proving yet again that the USA and Britain are two countries separated by a common language. \*\* Man, you’d think that at least the Brit would get the Monty Python reference. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2002, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/398 "2002-10-14T23:31:31Z")
Maybe spelling it ‘m **øø** se’ would have helped. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2002, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/399 "2002-10-15T11:55:12Z")
So, Omni… Decided Abe should win, then? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/400 "2002-10-15T12:49:30Z")
Fall 1904 [results are up](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/rtfirefly/). Germany becomes the first Great Power to depart. Builds and disbands are due in the morning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=21)