# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/461 "2002-10-19T00:46:36Z")
Oooh… He’s getting snippy! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/462 "2002-10-19T01:35:26Z")
The Dip 1040 Spring 1905 map has been updated with Austria’s retreat. Have a Dippy weekend! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/463 "2002-10-19T14:09:51Z")
It’s cold and rainy here, and I’m awake since a couple of hours. Any news from the Russian front? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/464 "2002-10-19T14:37:21Z")
I still need 1046 orders from 1 of you. Get them in, please. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/465 "2002-10-19T20:25:25Z")
I’ve already submitted orders in 1046 for Turkey, but in the interests of alacrity I’d be willing to submit the missing set as well… ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/466 "2002-10-19T20:58:12Z")
That 1053 game is interesting. So many opening bounces! How in the world did Germany persuade France to order A Mar-Spa in the Fall? His diplomatic stance wrt England seems fairly transparent, especially given England’s F Lvp build – about as far from anti-German as you can get. I’m sure Germany’s promised him support into Sweden in return for moving against France. He’s definitely looking good, though. I think the most important relationship in that game right now is Austria/Turkey. That could potentially have a lot of impact on how things turn out. If they can find a way to cooperate against Russia, Austria could go far. And if Turkey can convince Austria to cooperate against Russia, Turkey could go far. I’m definitely not liking Russia’s position at all. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/467 "2002-10-20T01:30:31Z")
What have you guys done with Lemur? “Stabbing” is NOT a term to be taken literally, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/468 "2002-10-20T01:56:35Z")
Someone else mentioned in email that he hadn’t heard from Lemur in days. Neither have I. Not that he’d have anything to say to me. I imagine it’d be the sporting thing to do to wait out the weekend before starting to look for a replacement. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/469 "2002-10-20T02:16:40Z")
I hope everything’s okay with him. Second at least waiting out the weekend to find out what’s up. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/470 "2002-10-20T03:17:11Z")
On the other hand, we could try to line up a replacement now and designate Tuesday morning to go ahead without the **Lemur**. Or something along those lines. BTW **Dave** , while I’m thinking of it, thanks for sending over the RP file to cue the game up. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/471 "2002-10-20T04:58:56Z")
I guess my point is that it’s not as if he were getting his butt handed to him in this game. He was doing quite well. If he’s not sending orders in then I’m genuinely concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/472 "2002-10-20T05:35:11Z")
I’ll jump in as a replacement if it’s needed. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/473 "2002-10-20T12:54:50Z")
I last heard from him on the 18th. That’s what…Friday? So it’s not like he isn’t around and active. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/474 "2002-10-20T16:02:06Z")
Well, it’s good that he’s talking to people, but it does make me nervous that France is talking to England but not Russia. Maybe we should NMR him… ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/475 "2002-10-20T16:07:23Z")
Well, it’s good that he’s talking to people, but it does make me nervous that France is talking to England but not Russia. Maybe we should NMR him… ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/476 "2002-10-20T16:21:03Z")
France’s orders are in. Adjudication shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/477 "2002-10-20T17:06:49Z")
It’s done. I need 4 retreats by tomorrow morning, faster would be great. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/478 "2002-10-20T17:09:10Z")
Jeez am I stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/479 "2002-10-20T17:23:58Z")
What? France, even with Marseille open, has no build. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/480 "2002-10-20T18:33:40Z")
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