# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/481 "2002-10-20T19:21:23Z")

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Big mistake, McG. I tried to tell ya.

**Dave** , I think **JC** thought **Abe** was feeling dumb for leaving Marseilles open for France to keep, and was reassuring him that he’d take it in 1905 because France has no builds. That’s what it looked like to me, anyway.  
My winter adjustments are in.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/482 "2002-10-21T01:22:20Z")

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I hesitate to bring this up, folks…

But…

The Diplomacy Worldmasters 2002 tournament is taking registrations through November 25, 2002.

[http://www.cat23.com/wm02/](http://www.cat23.com/wm02/)

I have already signed up a team of Cat23 veterans as ‘Wooley’s Mammoths’ Boo-YA!

But if you’re interested I think you can probably get enough SDMB folks together to get a team together. You can battle those nasty Germans and Brazilians. Or even those dreaded Japanese.

So who’s got the cojones for it? Who knows? You might face my team in the first round.

Wouldn’t that be fun?

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/483 "2002-10-21T01:43:28Z")

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I am feeling extremely dumb, because, regardless of whether France builds or not, _I_ should have a build this winter, dammit!

Surely you all agree that I deserve it??

I would be interested in some Diplomacy Tournament. How does the ‘teams’ thing work? Is there a website somewhere that explains it?

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/484 "2002-10-21T03:06:35Z")

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Nate, count me in.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/485 "2002-10-21T03:07:52Z")

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Oh, wait, are you not offering to put together a SDMB team? How does it work then?

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/486 "2002-10-21T03:11:14Z")

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Well, I’ll start an SDMB team then. Anyone interested, lemmie know, we need seven players, looks like.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/487 "2002-10-21T04:28:58Z")

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I’m playing with the 1046 web page, could I get a break down of players w/ emails and country assignments? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/488 "2002-10-21T07:07:44Z")

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Anybody concerned about bots picking up email addys? I’ll substitute ‘AT’ for the @.

nasedave’AT’[yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com): **Weirddave** : Honorable GM  
ppg\_shg’AT’[hotmail.com](http://hotmail.com): **ppg\_shg** (friend of **Abe** ): Austria  
amolochko’AT’[attbi.com](http://attbi.com): **White Lightning** : Turkey  
mammoth’AT’[direcway.com](http://direcway.com): **Jonathan Chance** : England  
AnyaMarie’AT’[fff.fathom.org](http://fff.fathom.org): **anya marie** : Germany (defunct)  
shibb\_o\_leth’AT’[yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com): **ShibbOleth** : Russia  
darryl.s’AT’[rocketmail.com](http://rocketmail.com): **Lemur86** (did I get his number right?): France  
t\_homasd’AT’[yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com): **Abe Babe** : Italy

**Dave** , I’d like to play, if you feel I’ve got enough experience. I imagine this’d be something you’d want to avoid involving newbies in, and I’m sure I still fall under that banner. If you’re willing to set it up and captain the team and stuff, I’m in if you’ll have me.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/489 "2002-10-21T07:28:20Z")

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Cool, Nate can you set me up so I can upload these files when I’m ready to that folder Dave had already used for the initial, or whatever folder you want?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/490 "2002-10-21T09:58:50Z")

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Count me in on this team thing.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/491 "2002-10-21T10:19:32Z")

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Bear in mind, one of you guys is going to have to set it up. I have my own Cat23 team to manage and I don’t think it’s kosher that I’m part of two teams in the tournament.

Though maybe some of you will end up in a game I GM. Wouldn’t that be nice?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/492 "2002-10-21T12:13:09Z")

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I just want you to know that I dreamed about Dip last night. In fact, everything in my dream involved Diplomacy and then submitting orders. It was very stressful. Sort of like my wife would tell me, “Sorry, but your move to do the laundry _bounced_, and your move to go out to see Monday Night Football at the pub was _cut_ by my move to have you read to the kids…”

Bastards!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/493 "2002-10-21T12:59:23Z")

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You’ve been assimilated, **Shibb**. 😃

In other news, we have an EOG proposal on the table in Dip 1040 to declare Austria the winner. Votes are due at 9pm EDT; results will be announced then, or earlier if the vote is conclusive before then. If the remaining players vote unanimously (6-0) for an Austrian win, the game ends tonight; otherwise, moves will be due in the morning. So keep Dipping.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/494 "2002-10-21T13:18:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
> \*\*I just want you to know that I dreamed about Dip last night. In fact, everything in my dream involved Diplomacy and then submitting orders. It was very stressful. Sort of like my wife would tell me, “Sorry, but your move to do the laundry _bounced_, and your move to go out to see Monday Night Football at the pub was _cut_ by my move to have you read to the kids…”
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> Bastards! \*\*

C’mon, **Shibb** , you should know by now to have an ally support you into the pub. You know your kids are at home and don’t need to be contained by your wife. She could therefore focus on you. Always support, dude.

Is there a web site for this tourney? I would definitely like to get in on it. How does this seven player teams thing work?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/495 "2002-10-21T13:32:38Z")

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**Abe** , the details are all at the site **JC** linked to.

Click his link, then look at the left-hand column. Especially check out “B. Tournament Structure” and “C. Scoring and Advancement” under “Rules and Guidelines”.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/496 "2002-10-21T13:42:07Z")

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FAIR WARNING: If I don’t have Austria’s retreats by the time I get home from work, they’ll be going OTB. ( Which they prolly will in the winter anyway. )

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/497 "2002-10-21T15:26:46Z")

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Looks like Weirddave, RTFirefly, White Lightning and the infraggable Abe Babe are interested. We need 3 more takers.

Dave, were you volunteering to be captain? Doesn’t look like there’s a lot to do other than assign countries and take care of replacements.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/498 "2002-10-21T18:26:32Z")

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Yea, I’ll be the team captain. Who else wants in?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/499 "2002-10-21T19:58:24Z")

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Oh, am I looking forward to THIS.

You guys realize this whole thing has been an experiment with me to see if I could get you to join Cat23, right?

Resistance is futile.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/500 "2002-10-21T21:13:04Z")

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What say you, Dave’s Dippers, should the prime directive be to destroy anyone on the Woolley’s Mammoths?

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