# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/521 "2002-10-22T19:50:15Z")
Ooo… Injected outside issues into the game. A chancy gambit on the newcomers part! I’m thinking 3-1, McGee. Everyone? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/522 "2002-10-22T20:43:21Z")
I dunno. It might be a strategic error not to take him to the airport. I’d get him to the airport and then “accidentally” drive away with the luggage. Unless “take you or your luggage to the airport” is some sort of lawyer slang for a perverted act. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/523 "2002-10-22T20:55:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by \*\*ppg\_shg \*\*\* > What? You stab me in Budapest, and you complain that I did not give you Trieste as well? ‘Stab’? You wound _me_ with your accusations. I was exceedingly clear as to my intentions for your territories. Your former agricultural resources and your women will be spared despite your impudence. You were the only one going back on your word in this transaction. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/524 "2002-10-22T21:03:42Z")
Most lawyer slang terms for perverted act contain either “bill” or “contingency fee” ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/525 "2002-10-22T21:07:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > \*\*Your former agricultural resources and your women will be spared \*\* Let us hope there is no confusion as to the proper utilization of each. ---
**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/526 "2002-10-22T21:14:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*Ooo… > > Injected outside issues into the game. > > A chancy gambit on the newcomers part! > > I’m thinking 3-1, McGee. > > Everyone? \*\* Naw, no outside issues. Due to a lack of originality of thought, sometimes we communicate through movie quotes. So he quotes from True Grit in this instance, and I respond with a little Stripes. However, if it will give me more centers I am more than willing to introduce outside issues. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/527 "2002-10-22T22:38:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by **Abe Babe** \* > Let us hope there is no confusion as to the proper utilization of each. I believe ‘rape and pillage’ to be the appropriate catchall term. The more uncouth of my troops (and all the way out there on the western front, so far from the shining beacon of civilization among the darkness that is Turkey, who can truly say how well-regulated are the fighting men) would probably be adventurous enough to stretch their imaginations to accomodate the idea of pillaging Austrian maidens (the ‘rape of the environment’ is a common enough phrase). The Sultan frowns upon such behavior, of course, but what can you really expect from the lower castes. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/528 "2002-10-22T23:54:08Z")
Can I get some reslts here, I’ve got the shakes for gods sake. Have you no mercy? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/529 "2002-10-23T00:15:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \* > \*\*Most lawyer slang terms for perverted act contain either “bill” or “contingency fee” \*\* As in, “Oh, yes, _bill_ me, baby!” or “Check out the _contigency fee_ on that one!”? I thought it might also contain the term “penal code”, but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/530 "2002-10-23T00:53:35Z")
**Omni** asks, and I answer. I _still_ don’t understand some of what RealPolitik was trying to do. ‘Parsing error’, my ass. Anyhow, the bug went away somehow. **Omni** , your Gulf of Lyon fleet’s gotta retreat somewhere. Choices are Tuscany or OTB. Check the map, and let me know. I’ll post it as quickly as I can. I’ve postponed the Winter 1905 move a day, and pushed the rest of the schedule back accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/531 "2002-10-23T01:31:41Z")
Wait’ll you have to enter some moves in the history manually, RT. That’s a blast. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/532 "2002-10-23T02:25:18Z")
Well, I do that with retreats already, so ‘some’ moves would be OK. Doing all 34 moves in a turn of Diplomacy, OTOH, would be torture. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/533 "2002-10-23T02:31:23Z")
Looks like theres a mistake, or else my understanding of the rules was mistaken… How can Austria support both Moscow and Sevastpool mutually? Doesn’t one have to support the other? They way I understood the rules shouldn’t the Moscow army have been bounced? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/534 "2002-10-23T03:35:51Z")
No, two adjacent units can support each other, as long as both remain stationary. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/535 "2002-10-23T04:23:12Z")
Well, now I wonder if Ive fucked that up in the past. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/536 "2002-10-23T04:40:05Z")
A brief aside: How did you all get into playing Diplomacy? For me, there was a brief experiment in it as part of an AP History class in 1980. My next experience was here. I’d especially be interested in how **JC** and others got involved as GMs. In college, high school, outside via hobby clubs, pesky associates at the law firm, etc? BTW, that reminds me that I’ve not seen anything from **Maeglin** since he abdicated the Russian throne. Hope all is well with him. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/537 "2002-10-23T07:35:58Z")
I got my start here on the ole SDMB, in case it was of interest. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/538 "2002-10-23T12:11:32Z")
Some high-school friends introduced me to the game, back in another lifetime. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/539 "2002-10-23T12:24:08Z")
And WHAT a lifetime. I ran into it my first year in college. Call it 17 years ago. I had a LOT more hair then. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2002, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/540 "2002-10-23T16:34:41Z")
I first played about 2 years ago or so, when Maeglin GMed a game here on the SDMB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=28)