# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/41 "2002-09-04T01:20:33Z")
I don’t know one way or the other about that, but we’ve got a page for this game, and a name - Diplomacy Game [Free State 10(W-)40](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/rtfirefly/). Remember, opening moves are due at 5am Thursday, which means tomorrow night, for all practical purposes. So if you think you know what you’re doing, send 'em in; you can always change them up to the deadline. And please put some variation on **Move Orders** in emails bearing same; it’ll help me sort them out from the chitchat. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/42 "2002-09-04T03:05:43Z")
Chit chat? What chit chat? No ones been talking to me at all! Yer all out ta get me ain’tcha? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/43 "2002-09-04T03:21:02Z")
Just an FYI, I know I have some mail but haven’t read it at all. Just finished work and life stuff and (my priorities are whack, I know…) hadn’t seen anything from anyone before 5 pm. Now I know this is dumb, but whenever we get into these 5 am situations it throws me off. So I was thinking up until recently that these would be late Thurday, going into Friday moves. Net, I’m a ditz, I’m not going to even look at e-mail until early tomorrow AM, but I’m not (yet) conspiring against anyone. Although I have my eye on a nice little island in the Philippines… ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/44 "2002-09-04T04:27:51Z")
Whoops, too late **ShibbOleth**. You weren’t responding so we all figured a quick 6-way alliance was our collective best bet. Sorry man. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/45 "2002-09-04T12:16:30Z")
Trust me, **WL** , you can all see right through me. (Yes, I’m wishing the e-mail “do over” button had already been invented) ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/46 "2002-09-04T12:19:55Z")
Well, at least they were conventional opening moves. Now if you’d done the armenia thing… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/47 "2002-09-04T12:33:56Z")
From **Abe Babe** ’s email: > [@](#): > > Feel free to cc: me with your move orders. I’ll make sure that RT gets them. > > (Especially you, russia and turkey) I woulda said something, if I’d thought anyone was gonna take **Abe Babe** seriously…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/48 "2002-09-04T13:29:47Z")
The Force is strong in the Archduke. “You will send your moves to Austria.” “I will send my moves to Austria.” :anxiously awaits Russia’s letter: ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/49 "2002-09-05T11:37:23Z")
F Naples - Aegean Sea? Former GM? Memo to self: Need to learn Italian for WTF… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/50 "2002-09-05T12:27:51Z")
As **Shibb** has observed, [the Spring 1901 moves are up](http://www.wooleysark.com:80/dip/rtfirefly/)! Geez, nobody trusts anybody anymore! Russia doesn’t trust Turkey, and Turkey doesn’t trust Russia. France and Germany, ditto. Italy’s paranoid of _all_ its neighbors - so much so that it tried to catapult its fleet into the Aegean to pre-emptively block any Turkish fleet moves in its direction. (The catapult broke, and the fleet’s still in port. ;)) And England trusted France, but you can see how _that_ went, so maybe the others weren’t so dumb after all. No retreats or nothin’, so start Dipping for real, now that you have a clue about who you can trust. Fall 1901 deadline is next Wednesday, September 11, at 5AM EDT. BTW, I’ve posted a complete schedule through 1904 on the index page; if any of those dates are a problem for anyone, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/51 "2002-09-05T12:29:25Z")
I **TOLD** everyone I’m bad at this game. Didn’t I tell you? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/52 "2002-09-05T12:36:40Z")
Those who can’t _do_ GM? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/53 "2002-09-05T13:13:01Z")
That’s gotta hurt, Nate. And you always seem to do it on the first turn, too, when you can least afford it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/54 "2002-09-05T15:00:52Z")
It’s all because you distracted me yesterday you maniac! Can we start over? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/55 "2002-09-05T16:03:37Z")
I think Nate’s just sharking us. Next game, he’s gonna say “You guys wanna play for a little juice? Say, $50 a game?” and this have us all beaten by 1903. And **Shibb** , that was funny. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2002, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/56 "2002-09-09T21:51:51Z")
Well, life is getting interesting after the weekend. We’ve got a deadline in about 35 hours, and the move orders are starting to trickle in. Your Dip fortune cookie predicts a lively Fall 1901! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/57 "2002-09-10T10:56:47Z")
22 hours and counting. I’m going to sleep now. Hopefully I’ll wake up and get back to the Dipping before all you suit-and-tie style fellas leave work. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/58 "2002-09-10T17:32:38Z")
Ah, to be in college again. I was waking up when you wrote that post, **WL** ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/59 "2002-09-10T18:54:41Z")
OK, I just figured out why I kept getting 404 for Fall 1901. I guess I just expected that since the link is live, the move had already happened. Note to self: check dates. Oh, and Chance, Jonathan Chance? Given your moves in this game, are you up for joining the second game? We could use a player of your caliber over there… ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/60 "2002-09-10T19:07:35Z")
“given your moves” and “player of your caliber” I’m not sure if you should be flattered or insulted. [sub]I’m sure flattery was intended[/sub] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=4)