# Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 28, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858 "2002-08-28T01:21:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/61 "2002-09-10T19:18:19Z")
“given your moves” and “player of your caliber” I’m not sure if you should be flattered or insulted. [sub]I’m sure flattery was intended[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/62 "2002-09-10T19:26:47Z")
No, I’m thinking insult here. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/63 "2002-09-10T20:17:47Z")
Um, yeah, probably. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/64 "2002-09-10T20:31:26Z")
**Lemur** - what I did was update the main page for Dip 1040 last night, to link to the pages that I’ll upload tomorrow morning and Thursday morning. It cuts down on how much thinking I have to do when I adjudicate and upload the results, while I’m still getting used to how to do everything. In a week or two, when this is more routine for me, I’ll probably be comfortable with uploading all the changes at once. [sub]Nah, that’s a lie. I actually did it to screw with people’s heads. Thanks for letting me know it worked. ;)[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2002, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/65 "2002-09-10T21:04:08Z")
**I** wasn’t fooled for a minute. Can I change my answer above? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/66 "2002-09-11T00:33:51Z")
**RTFirefly** : You might want to change the following code in your secondary pages: > [@](#): > > \ Cat23 Diplomacy Game **Adams 936** \ The highlighted bit should of course read: \Cat23 Diplomacy Game **Free State 10(-W)40**\ As it does (more or less) on the first page. I just found this confusing as I was in that 936 game and while studying the map I suddenly panicked that perhaps I was at the wrong link. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/67 "2002-09-11T01:30:10Z")
Thanks for the reminder, **Shibb** - I’d noticed that the title on the S01 page was off, late one night last week when I was too tired to fix it. Then I forgot. Try it now. I also turned on the shading on the map on that page, so that the provinces with bases are shaded in the color of the Great Power that controls the base. (I find “bases” a lot more succinct than “supply centers” so I’ll probably use that wording more often than not. Besides, that allows for the occasional ‘all your base’ joke.) That was another thing I’d meant to do, but somehow overlooked when I was first getting the page ready for uploading. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/68 "2002-09-11T03:50:10Z")
That’s very nice now, **RTFirefly**. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/69 "2002-09-11T07:24:27Z")
2 hours. You awake yet, **RT**? ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/70 "2002-09-11T08:11:15Z")
Do you guys play this in real life? What’s a good way of getting started in a net game for a total newb? I’ve broken my D&D virginity, so I might as well Dip… ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/71 "2002-09-11T09:58:44Z")
Speaking for myself only, I’ve never played in real life. I’ve just played here with the Straight Dope crew. I get the sense that a lot of these guys have been at it for years, though. I’d say a good way to get started would be to play in one of these games. That’s how I did it. There’s another thread out there in MPSIMS current to the last 2 days or so about a new game starting, if you’re truly interested. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/72 "2002-09-11T09:59:52Z")
The best way to find online games is to join cat23 at [www.cat23.com](http://www.cat23.com). Sign up for the NGame (New Games) list and wait for the fairly regular announcements that someone is starting a game. That’ll get you started. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/73 "2002-09-11T10:06:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > 2 hours. You awake yet, **RT**? No I wasn’t, thank goodness! But I’m up now. I’m still missing a set of orders. Hopefully the party in question will email me with them in time for me to adjudicate before I go off to work. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/74 "2002-09-11T10:55:59Z")
We have [Fall 1901 results](http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/rtfirefly/). Winter 1901 builds due tomorrow morning at 5am! ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/75 "2002-09-11T11:03:42Z")
Oh, Abe. I’m so disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/76 "2002-09-11T11:14:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by **Jonathan Chance** \* > The best way to find online games is to join cat23 at [www.cat23.com](http://www.cat23.com). Sign up for the NGame (New Games) list and wait for the fairly regular announcements that someone is starting a game. That’ll get you started. **Wikkit** , don’t trust a word out of this snake! Just kidding. CAT23 is cool. **JC** , I can no longer truthfully say I’m surprised, as I saw this coming, but I am surprised that this is the choice you made. Frankly I don’t see the sense in it. But I guess you thought it was best. Ah, why beat around the bush. You’re going to regret this, pal. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_alien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Go\_alien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_alien)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/77 "2002-09-11T11:36:09Z")
I’ve been lurking on this thread and, as a former big time FtF player, want to add my tuppence worth of idle comment. Since I have no idea as to who is allied to whom, all comments are based on what people have done rather than what they’ve said they’d do. \*\*Weirddave & Omniscient \*\*– If you weren’t friends before, now’s a good time to become best buddies. **Jonathan & Shibboleth** – I assume that you are on the way to becoming friends and want to waltz along the Danube. **Maeglin & White Lightening** – clearly you _are_ best mates. **Abe** – feeling isolated? Unless you and **Shib** have a cunning plan.😉 ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/78 "2002-09-11T11:45:50Z")
Don’t listen to him, **Abe Babe**. You look great from up here. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/79 "2002-09-11T12:34:39Z")
No kidding, **Abe**. I’ll email ya when I get to work. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2002, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858/80 "2002-09-11T13:06:22Z")
Sorry to let you down there, **JC**. Although it would have been pretty funny if Austria became the preeminent naval power in the Mediterranean. And **ShibbOleth** , sorry, but I just don’t see an Austria/Turkey going anywhere in the long term. Once Russia was taken out, your only possible direction of expansion meant encircling me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-fall-and-winter-2002/125858.md?page=5)