# Doper Diplomacy - Winter-Spring 2003 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 5, 2003, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052 "2003-02-05T21:52:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/241 "2003-02-27T19:45:47Z")
Because Other Ben wouldn’t let This Ben do the website. 🙂 I’m sure he’ll do it shortly. Here’s a [provisional page](http://wikkit.com/1099-F01.html). ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/242 "2003-02-27T19:55:07Z")
Communique from England: France had agreed to keep the English Channel a de-militarized zone in the Fall. England feels that the French attempt to move there shows bad faith, and asks France to forfeit a supply center to England in order to demonstrate that the French-English alliance is still functional. End Communique. ---
**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/243 "2003-02-27T19:56:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ppg\_shg \* > \*\*I tell you that was some dirty business. It’s getting so you can’t even trust the fix. Now if you can’t trust a fix, what can you trust? \*\* Hey, I’m from Italy and there’s genuine Machiavellian blood in these here veins, so you can’t blame a guy for his genetic predisposition to scheming. It’s a handicap, ok? I’m trying to fight it - I’m even going to a support groups on Thursday nights (compulsively sneaky bastards anonymous), so don’t hold it against me. You might as well blame me for being an olive-skinned, Latin babe-magnet. Bib ---
**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/244 "2003-02-27T20:04:45Z")
Communique from Italy My scientists have devised a new super-pasta which is guaranteed to boost stamina and endurance by 200%. I shall be feeding it to all my units and am ready to defend the homeland to the last man. I can personally vouch for the effectiveness of said formula, and must also say that Mrs Bibliovore is very pleased, albeit quite exhausted and a mite sore. End Communique ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/245 "2003-02-27T20:08:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\*Communique from England: > > France had agreed to keep the English Channel a de-militarized zone in the Fall. > > England feels that the French attempt to move there shows bad faith, and asks France to forfeit a supply center to England in order to demonstrate that the French-English alliance is still functional. > > End Communique. \*\* Indeed, I might say the same to you, given that we bounced there. I’ll give you one if you’ll give me one. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/246 "2003-02-27T20:12:54Z")
We got a updated webpage you bastards. I bust my hump every other turn to get this thing up ASAP and I get not quality heckling, then you choose _this_ turn to be punctual? 😉 Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/247 "2003-02-27T20:31:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*Indeed, I might say the same to you, given that we bounced there. > > I’ll give you one if you’ll give me one. \*\* Don’t do it. He’ll take one for certain, but he never pays up. Lost communications, faulty memory, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/248 "2003-02-27T21:35:34Z")
It’s in the mail. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/249 "2003-02-28T01:29:48Z")
And the map is insanely wrong. Why do we let you near a computer? ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/250 "2003-02-28T03:54:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > **Indeed, I might say the same to you, given that we bounced there.** Ah, but there’s a difference. You moved there because you thought I wouldn’t, whereas I moved there because I thought you would. Mine was defensive, yours offensive. For a more experienced player, you sure aren’t good at this subterfuge stuff. > [@](#): > > \*\*I’ll give you one if you’ll give me one. \*\* Sounds good. Even better, let me have mine in '02, and I’ll give you two in '20. Is someone taking bets as to how much shit the newbie can dish out before getting his ass kicked? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/251 "2003-02-28T04:50:01Z")
**JC** , please! _My_ map is perfectly fine! isn’t it? At any rate, Winter’s out. Spring is due next Tuesday, March 4th. Rev 'em up. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/252 "2003-02-28T13:47:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\*Is someone taking bets as to how much shit the newbie can dish out before getting his ass kicked? \*\* And mine was defensive, too. Who’s with me on this? ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/253 "2003-02-28T13:53:49Z")
is there an updated map/site around guys? i feel like making arrogant, unwarranted and altogether uselss comments about you all… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/254 "2003-02-28T15:24:28Z")
**garius** , site’s [here](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1099/). Looks like W01’s not updated yet. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/255 "2003-02-28T15:40:52Z")
Fine, fine, y’all. It was _my_ stinkin’ map from Minime that was messed up. I said it. Are you happy now, ya’ wankers. [sub]that was actually very cathartic. ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/256 "2003-02-28T16:59:33Z")
Okay here is my first attempt at doing one of those “how it looks to me” things: **England/Wikkit** Kudos to you - with getting the army in Belgium. Its a distinct advantage. Although the fact that you did it with German support and are now bitching about the French may mean you’ve revealed your diplomatic leanings a little early. **France/Jonathon Chance** Je suis desolé mon ami, mais c’est mal… _ahem_ sorry I mean - it’s not looking good. Yes your Iberian efforts are rewarding, but England seems to be displaying a definite preference for Wagner and Liederhosen. If both England and Germany come at you then you’ll get stuffed -Russia is way too busy to give you an anti-German ally in the east at the moment and who else is going to help you? The snigger Italians??? **Germany/Omniscient** Lookin’ good. Russia is busy looking the other way which leaves you free to fight a single front war. Exploit any cracks in anglo-french relations mercilessly. If you are as good a general as you are a GM then you’ll have no problems. **Italy/Bibliovore** North Africa is all very well but you need to get back on the continent in force if you are going to exploit the wars erupting all around you to your own benefit. **Austria/ppg\_shg** Few worries in the west at the moment. And the east is looking promising - keep an eye on Italy and swap sides as many times as you like to capitalise on the whole Russia/Turkey thing. **Russia/tjblack AND Turkey/Abe Babe** Jesus guys are you playing _Diplomacy_ or _Twister_? Garius. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/257 "2003-02-28T17:36:54Z")
New map’s up and the page is updated. Heckle away. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/258 "2003-02-28T17:53:18Z")
\Ha ha!\ You code like my grandma and have ppg’s e-mail wrong. Oh, you mean heckle about the game? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/259 "2003-02-28T18:30:32Z")
Here’s a link [SDMB Diplomacy Game 1099 Bobble](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1099/) Oh, and Dave coded the page template. I’m just lazy and haven’t redone it, so you can heckle that all you want. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/260 "2003-02-28T21:59:32Z")
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