# Doper Diplomacy - Winter-Spring 2003 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 5, 2003, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052 "2003-02-05T21:52:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/261 "2003-02-28T22:01:00Z")
Maybe you should check out the [original](http://fff.fathom.org/pages/Walcher/Diplomacy.html) before you comment. It’s not MY fault if these lugs bollex it all up! ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/262 "2003-03-01T00:22:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by garius \* > \*\*Okay here is my first attempt at doing one of those “how it looks to me” things: > > \ England seems to be displaying a definite preference for Wagner and Liederhosen. > > \*\* Hmm… “song trousers”? Anyway, I wish I’d known this was going on sooner. Shortlist me for the next time, please. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/263 "2003-03-04T18:21:44Z")
I think the required reply to anyone getting involved in SDMB Dip goes something like this: Heh heh heh. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/264 "2003-03-05T01:48:19Z")
Sorry for the lack of reminders in the thread. S02’s due in just over 2 hours. I’ve got 7 complete sets of orders. I’ll keep accepting revised orders until 8pm PST/10pm CST/11pm EST and then publish the adjudication, unless I get seven notices that orders as submitted are final, in which case I’ll go ahead and release it straight away. It’s shaping up to be an interesting year, I’ll say that much. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/265 "2003-03-05T01:50:57Z")
I take it back. I’m missing one set. Player in question has been notified. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/266 "2003-03-05T01:51:34Z")
Final Final Final! Release Release Release! Please don’t be interesting around me. I don’t like interesting. A dull, methodical plod to world domination is what I’m looking for. Applications for lackeys and hanger-ons are still being accepted. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/267 "2003-03-05T01:56:16Z")
I’ll take that deal! ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/268 "2003-03-05T02:21:23Z")
Do you want to be a lackey or a hanger-on? Do you have any references? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/269 "2003-03-05T02:24:49Z")
I was in the White House Press Corps for two years. Maybe I should be the backstabbing underling. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/270 "2003-03-05T03:07:59Z")
Orders are in. Adjudication in just under 1 hour. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/271 "2003-03-05T04:13:59Z")
Email’s out. Could be more than one very unhappy clam this evening. One retreat needed. Soon as it’s in I’ll get the updated map sent out. Aiming for this Thursday March 6th, 8pm PST/10pm CST/11pm EST for Fall 1902. [Here](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1099/)’s the link to the site, once **Omni** gets it updated, but let’s not rush him as he just completed a turn for his own game this afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/272 "2003-03-05T13:19:16Z")
Why is everybody always pickin’ on me? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/273 "2003-03-05T15:42:35Z")
Map’s out. Fall 1902 due tomorrow, Thursday March 6th, 8pm PST/10pm CST/11pm EST. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/274 "2003-03-05T16:20:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*Why is everybody always pickin’ on me? \*\* I don’t know, but it looks like **Bibliovore** didn’t get the memo… c’mon, Italy, you don’t want your neighbors to have all the fun, do you? ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/275 "2003-03-05T17:05:50Z")
I see my plan is coming to fruition. Soon you will all be begging for mercy. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/276 "2003-03-05T17:14:55Z")
Woohoo! Dull methodical plod, here we go. Should have taken the lackey deal when it was offered. _New_ and **Improved** AlternateComeback[sup]TM[/sup]: Hey, you were in the White House press corps, you’re used to being lied to and acting like it’s the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/277 "2003-03-05T23:29:33Z")
Just wanted to share a new page I created as a portal to all these games I’m hosting sites for. Its really simple, but might be nice for the kibitzers. [My SDMB Diplomacy Homepage](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/) ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/278 "2003-03-05T23:56:25Z")
Orders Q: Does A Burgundy - Gascony (_Dislodged_) mean that the army first bounced, then got pushed? If France hadn’t A Spa - Gas, the first would have just moved normally, right? **Omni** , it’s MPSIMS. Good to see it as Bobble, though. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/279 "2003-03-06T00:06:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > **Orders Q: Does A Burgundy - Gascony (_Dislodged_) mean that the army first bounced, then got pushed? If France hadn’t A Spa - Gas, the first would have just moved normally, right?** Yes. If France hadn’t ordered A Spa - Gas, then A Bur - Gas would have succeded. Instead, the two bounced, so A Bur was dislodged by the supported move from Munich. Gascony was not a retreat option because it was left empty due to a standoff. I’m not sure if the bounce in Gascony was a mistake or not. it certainly didn’t seem to serve any purpose. I’m also wondering about Germany’s invalid orders (A Den - Ber, A Ber - Ruhr). ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/280 "2003-03-06T00:17:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tjblack \* > \*\*Yes. If France hadn’t ordered A Spa - Gas, then A Bur - Gas would have succeded. > > Instead, the two bounced, so A Bur was dislodged by the supported move from Munich. Gascony was not a retreat option because it was left empty due to a standoff.\*\* Ah, thanks. > [@](#): > > I’m not sure if the bounce in Gascony was a mistake or not. it certainly didn’t seem to serve any purpose. I’m also wondering about Germany’s invalid orders (A Den - Ber, A Ber - Ruhr). A bounce like France’s is usually a way of defending three spaces with two units, right? Not that Gas or Spa were under any threat. Germany’s moves reminded me of the English opening “Yorkshire Pudding”, where all English units are ordered to Yorkshire. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052.md?page=15)