# Doper Diplomacy - Winter-Spring 2003

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 5, 2003, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052 "2003-02-05T21:52:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/301 "2003-03-13T00:59:02Z")

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We’ll hope for Friday S03 and Tuesday F03 and see where that gets us.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/302 "2003-03-13T01:48:30Z")

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The website: [http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1099/](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1099/)  
The GM: [White Lightning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=9474)  
The Winner: England

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/303 "2003-03-13T02:18:19Z")

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No, a year a week can be done. But it requires discipline. I’ve run several games that way.

Hell, I’m currently running a HYPERDIP. Try that someday, kids.

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/304 "2003-03-14T16:44:34Z")

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Are we still on for Spring '03 moves tonight?

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/305 "2003-03-14T18:24:16Z")

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Spring 1903 due tonight at 8pm PST/10pm CST/11pm EST. 7.5 hours from now. I’ve got my fingers crossed.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/306 "2003-03-14T18:53:57Z")

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Crap!

What’s this game again? Is this the one where I’m getting pummeled as France? Or the one where I’m getting pummeled as Italy?

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/307 "2003-03-14T19:23:47Z")

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It’s the one where I’m being attacked by three other countries as Russia, that’s all I know.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/308 "2003-03-14T19:31:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*Crap!
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> What’s this game again? Is this the one where I’m getting pummeled as France? Or the one where I’m getting pummeled as Italy? \*\*

Looks like the “you’re _about_ to get pummeled as France” variant. But don’t blame yourself, the others are probably just getting caught up in the times. Perhaps you should rename your country “New Freedonia”?

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/309 "2003-03-15T07:23:32Z")

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Pre page, just because I want some opinions: [Spring '03](http://wikkit.com/1099-S03.html)

Were the orders into France reasonable, or am I horrible at guessing what my opponent is going to do?

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/310 "2003-03-15T21:43:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wikkit \*  
> \*\*Were the orders into France reasonable, or am I horrible at guessing what my opponent is going to do? \*\*

Looks good to me. You’ll be eating frog’s legs soon enough.

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/311 "2003-03-16T05:11:58Z")

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I think most of these delays are my fault, and I do apologize. Well now that I have reappeared, I’m off.

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**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/312 "2003-03-17T10:31:36Z")

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Open Message from Italy to all Countries:

Dear All,

Due to an unforseen change in personal circumstances, I’m afraid I’m going to have to drop out of this game. Sorry for any inconvenience or delay this might cause, but White Lightining has been informed by email in advance, and a replacement player is being sought.

It’s really a shame that I’m going to have to quit just as things were beginning to look up for Italy, but I’d just like to say that I’ve really enjoyed playing with you guys, and that I hope to be able to join you in a new game soon. Thanks for making a newbie feel welcome, and thanks for not pounding on me at the first available opportunity. 😃

If it’s all right with you, I’ll be dropping by and sticking my head round the door once in awhile, if only to see how well my replacement is doing.

Thanks again for everything. Please feel free to email me if you like.

Sincerely yours,

Il (Ex)Duce Bib

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/313 "2003-03-17T12:47:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Wikkit \*  
> \*\*Pre page, just because I want some opinions: [Spring '03](http://wikkit.com/1099-S03.html)
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> Were the orders into France reasonable, or am I horrible at guessing what my opponent is going to do? \*\*

Man, I had such a good idea for how you could hose France on that round. But, since I love **Jonathan Chance** like the puppy I never had, I bit my tongue. He is the zen master here, so I expect him to come out of this shiny and fresh.

Does the massive cold medicine dosage show in this post?

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/314 "2003-03-17T17:04:16Z")

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A pity you have to go, **Bib** , it was fun playing with you.

Maybe you can go be in exile in one of the countries that offered it for Saddam.

And **Shibb** , someday that puppy’s gonna give you rabies.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/315 "2003-03-17T18:38:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Wikkit \*  
> \*\*Pre page, just because I want some opinions: [Spring '03](http://wikkit.com/1099-S03.html)
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> Were the orders into France reasonable, or am I horrible at guessing what my opponent is going to do? \*\*

Into France? Reasonable.

Into North Africa? Not so reasonable

Be careful that you don’t let Germany in your back door.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/316 "2003-03-17T19:44:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> **Into North Africa? Not so reasonable**

'Twas just a joke. Hold orders are boring.

And you never know when a wormhole is going to open up.

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> Be careful that you don’t let Germany in your back door.

That thread is [over there](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169516&perpage=50&pagenumber=1).

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/317 "2003-03-17T21:22:51Z")

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**Abe** , careful my virgin ears! And you should know darn well that I don’t swing that way.

Just a little update, I’m waiting to do the webpage until retreats are out. Sure I could do it now, but damnit I’m feeling lazy.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/318 "2003-03-17T23:31:45Z")

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The letter with the retreat already went out. You should have gotten it.

Russian Fleet Baltic retreats to Prussia.

I’ll send out a map when I get home.

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/319 "2003-03-18T00:09:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> **Russian Fleet Baltic retreats to Prussia.**

Wrong thread, I think. It’s your retreat we’re waiting for, but I guess the point is moot now that we’re short a player.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-diplomacy-winter-spring-2003/153052/320 "2003-03-18T14:50:03Z")

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I’m pretty sure I sent mine in. **White Lightning** probably just put everything on hold. I’ll send in another letter in case though. It ain’t exactly a tough decision.

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