# Doper drummers/rockers - why is this outrageous?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 10, 2010, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-drummers-rockers-why-is-this-outrageous/542625 "2010-06-10T05:49:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-drummers-rockers-why-is-this-outrageous/542625/81 "2010-06-18T18:02:28Z")

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> [@DChord568](#):
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> And those theatrics would be fine in the course of a song intended to spotlight them – e.g., their version of “Wipeout,” or maybe they could have essayed a version of “Cobwebs and Strange” or “Dogs, part 2” (it would have been fun to see what the punters at the convention made of one of those!).
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> I find them, though, to be at cross purposes in other contexts in which the drums aren’t meant to be the song’s primary focus.

I totally agree that the theatrics are way inappropriate for the choice of song. I’m just saying, don’t blame the drummer, it seems to me that this is the band’s schtick and he’s doing what the rest of the band wants him to do.

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**Author:** ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-drummers-rockers-why-is-this-outrageous/542625/82 "2010-06-18T18:18:22Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I totally agree that the theatrics are way inappropriate for the choice of song. I’m just saying, don’t blame the drummer, it seems to me that this is the band’s schtick and he’s doing what the rest of the band wants him to do.

I’m glad we’re in agreement about the inappropriateness, and I’m sure you’re right that everyone in the band figures they’re scoring major points with the audience.

It sure wouldn’t be the first time I’ve questioned the decisions that some bands make in terms of how they present themselves or other choices they make.

For example, I’ve seen people with a fair amount of talent do stuff like preceding a song with “And now the next song we’re going to do is ‘Oh Pretty Woman’ by Roy Orbison.”

For God’s sake, everybody knows you’re going to “do a song”…why do you need to spell it out? Furthermore, everybody knows that song and who it’s by…just go into it and get on with the program, instead of bringing things to a grinding halt between every number.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-drummers-rockers-why-is-this-outrageous/542625/83 "2010-06-18T18:22:50Z")

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> [@DChord568](#):
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> I’m glad we’re in agreement about the inappropriateness, and I’m sure you’re right that everyone in the band figures they’re scoring major points with the audience.
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> It sure wouldn’t be the first time I’ve questioned the decisions that some bands make in terms of how they present themselves or other choices they make.
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> For example, I’ve seen people with a fair amount of talent do stuff like preceding a song with “And now the next song we’re going to do is ‘Oh Pretty Woman’ by Roy Orbison.”
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> For God’s sake, everybody knows you’re going to “do a song”…why do you need to spell it out? Furthermore, everybody knows that song and who it’s by…just go into it and get on with the program, instead of bringing things to a grinding halt between every number.

My god, do I ever hate this sort of inane stage banter (not bashing good banter, just inane banter.) Our singer would do this sometimes, pausing to introduce every song, until me and the drummer told him to knock it off and just at least get through three or four songs before maybe pausing to talk to the audience.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-drummers-rockers-why-is-this-outrageous/542625/84 "2010-06-18T18:40:48Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Ibut they parted ways when they couldn’t come to terms on fees for touring. Bowie also let Ronson go by Diamond Dogs because he felt he could get what he needed either playing the parts himself or using hired guns…

Wow, I never knew that Bowie and SRV parted over pay. I can think of reasons to not have SRV in the band, but money would not be one of them. Then again, I’ve never commanded Bowie’s paycheck, either.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-drummers-rockers-why-is-this-outrageous/542625/85 "2010-06-18T18:51:58Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Wow, I never knew that Bowie and SRV parted over pay. I can think of reasons to not have SRV in the band, but money would not be one of them. Then again, I’ve never commanded Bowie’s paycheck, either.

I found this on Wikipedia:

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> Bowie featured blues guitarist Stevie Ray Vaughan on the track. Vaughan was asked to go on tour with Bowie, but declined so he could continue to play with his band Double Trouble. Reportedly, Vaughan, who was still driving a delivery truck to support himself, was furious when he saw Bowie pantomiming over Vaughan’s guitar solo in the video

I have never heard that story. The one I read in a Guitar Player or maybe that SRV bio Caught in the Crossfire was that Bowie saw him at the Montreaux Jazz Festival (SRV was supposedly booed for not playing real jazz - I have seen the video and don’t hear the boos, but the legend remains), hired him to do lead work on the Cat People single and then Let’s Dance. They were about to embark on the Serious Moonlight tour and SRV ended up quitting at the last minute due to a combination of opportunities for Double Trouble and Bowie’s lowball offer for SRV’s touring fees…

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