# Doper parents, can I poll your kids re: point of view?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309
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**Created:** [August 13, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309 "2009-08-13T17:32:54Z")
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### Author:  [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/1 "2009-08-13T17:32:54Z")
I’m working on a kids’ story and it’s going okay, but I’m still unsure if I want it to be in third or first person. My problem is I’m not sure which point of view would be more appealing to kids.
I don’t have ready access to any young readers (say ages 6-15) at the moment, so would you mind asking yours a question for me? I know there are a handful of dopers that are in middle school and early high school grades, so if you’d weigh in too that’d be very welcomed also.
If the type of story makes a difference, it’s about a ten-year-old boy who encounters fairytale creatures while trying to rescue his little brother from one of them. The reading level of the story will most likely fall into the ages 8-12 category, but we know those stories get read by kids older and younger than that too. Anyway, on to the poll…
Dopers’ Kids/Young Dopers:
When you read or hear an fantasy or adventure story, do you prefer that the story be in first person (the narrator tells you their own story, talking about what happened using “I” and “me” a lot) or in third person (someone tells you what happened to another person, with lots of references to “he” or “she” and the character’s name)?
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### Author:  [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/2 "2009-08-13T23:49:46Z")
I’m not my daughter, and she’s out for the day, but I can’t imagine it makes a difference. It certainly made no difference to me as a child and makes none now.
She’s read The Princess Bride multiple times, which is third person, and loved the Little House books and the Oz books, which were also third person.
Right now on the floor of her room are Junie B. Jones books and James Herriott books which are first person.
I’ll ask her when she comes home, and if she cares I’ll amend this.
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### Author:  [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/3 "2009-08-14T03:22:21Z")
My 11 yr old strongly prefers 3rd person.
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### Author:  [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/4 "2009-08-14T03:33:27Z")
After explaining to my 10 year old daughter what ‘third person’ vs. ‘first person’ means, she says,
“I need someone else to be telling the story, so I can know what is happening all the time. Not just what the person telling the story sees.”
By the way, it is 11:30 pm. Why is my daughter wide awake? And she will be up for hours longer, regardless if I make her go to bed, which I won’t.
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### Author:  [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/5 "2009-08-14T04:24:02Z")
I am not a kid. I do not have kids. My nephews don’t read.
But, my taste in storytelling style has not changed since I was a little kid. And, I still read kid and young adult books.
I don’t care.
The method of storytelling has to be geared toward each type of story. If the style matches the book, I’m happy.
That probably didn’t help you at all, did it?
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### Author:  [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/6 "2009-08-14T06:01:28Z")
I liked both as a kid, but first-person narrative where the point of view shifts from character to character annoyed the shit out of me. It still does, actually. It seems like a stupid lazy way to write.
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### Author:  [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/7 "2009-08-14T06:03:48Z")
Elfkin - just because it can make a difference, third person limited or third person omniscient? (And for that matter, first person fixed or first person shifting?) I’ll send my aunts and uncles a couple emails, between them you’ll get about 5 opinions, if one of them still does childcare maybe more.
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### Author:  [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/8 "2009-08-14T06:16:53Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Elfkin - just because it can make a difference, third person limited or third person omniscient? (And for that matter, first person fixed or first person shifting?) I’ll send my aunts and uncles a couple emails, between them you’ll get about 5 opinions, if one of them still does childcare maybe more.
If I go with first person it will be just one person narrating, not alternating narrators; I have another story I’m working on for adults with two first person narrators, but that’s needlessly complex for a kids’ story and hard to pull off as well. If I choose third, it will probably be third person limited given all but one scene (that I need to think through to bring it into alignment) would focus on the main character’s actions and not elsewhere.
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### Author:  [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/9 "2009-08-14T06:17:43Z")
> [@Jragon](#):
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> Elfkin - just because it can make a difference, third person limited or third person omniscient? (And for that matter, first person fixed or first person shifting?) I’ll send my aunts and uncles a couple emails, between them you’ll get about 5 opinions, if one of them still does childcare maybe more.
I don’t know of any novels using third person limited perspective. It’s really not much more than a theoretical possibility.
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### Author:  [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/10 "2009-08-14T06:20:27Z")
My kid (13) thinks he likes first person, and it’s a fact that he likes illustrations, particularly cartoony ones.
However, he has read all the Harry Potter books, multiple times, despite their being in third person.
As a writer and editor I say, do what the story requires. Sometimes it has to be third person because the readers needs more information than the protagonist knows and this information has to be conveyed somehow. Sometimes first-person works best.
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### Author:  [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/11 "2009-08-14T06:21:34Z")
> [@Mosier](#):
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> I don’t know of any novels using third person limited perspective. It’s really not much more than a theoretical possibility.
I don’t know of any PERFECT Third Person Limited novels, but Harry Potter gets very close. There are a few scenes here and there that show a “meanwhile” on what the Death Eaters are doing in the later books, but generally you know very, very little outside of what Harry does. Overall it’s much closer to limited than omniscient even if you “technically” would have to call it omniscient because of a few scattered scenes.
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### Author:  [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/12 "2009-08-14T18:31:06Z")
> [@Mosier](#):
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> I don’t know of any novels using third person limited perspective. It’s really not much more than a theoretical possibility.
It’s not an uncommon point of view in children’s lit. **Bridge to Terabithia** by Katherine Paterson, **The Giver** by Lois Lowry, **A Solitary Blue** by Cynthia Voigt (probably its companion Homecoming too, but I haven’t reread it in a while), **Hatchet** by Brian Paulsen and its sequels are all written in third person limited. Rumor has it that **The Graveyard Book** by Neil Gaiman is as well, but I haven’t picked that one up yet.
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### Author:  [@raspberry\_hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raspberry_hunter)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/13 "2009-08-14T19:12:19Z")
When I was that age I had a very strong preference for third-person limited. You identify with the protagonist strongly, but there’s a certain amount of space so you don’t feel too claustrophobic.
(You can’t think of examples? Wrinkle in Time. Dark is Rising. Actually, I have a hard time thinking of books I loved as a child that weren’t at least mostly in third-person limited.)
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### Author:  [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/14 "2009-08-14T19:49:30Z")
Just asked my thirteen year old daughter. She prefers third person so that you get to see the main character from other points of view.
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### Author:  [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-parents-can-i-poll-your-kids-re-point-of-view/506309/15 "2009-08-14T20:06:59Z")
> [@elfkin477](#):
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> When you read or hear an fantasy or adventure story, do you prefer that the story be in first person (the narrator tells you their own story, talking about what happened using “I” and “me” a lot) or in third person (someone tells you what happened to another person, with lots of references to “he” or “she” and the character’s name)?
My oldest kid is six, and I’ve recently read two novels for him, [The Brothers Lionheart](http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Lionheart-Astrid-Lindgren/dp/0192729047/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250279708&sr=1-1) and [Mio, my Mio](http://www.amazon.com/Mio-My-Son-Astrid-Lindgren/dp/1930900236/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250279773&sr=1-1) (both by our great Swedish author [Astrid Lindgren](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_Lindgren).) He was very fascinated by those stories (especially Lionheart), and they are both in first person.
I have three kids, all in all, and we read for them every night, and most of the stories (classics like [Andersen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_Andersen)and [Grimm](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_Grimm), and also [Milne](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._A._Milne)and [Jansson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tove_Jansson)) are in third person, and now that I’m thinking about it, it seems to be of no difference _at all_, to the kids, wether the story is told in first or third person.
If I were you, I’d just write my story in the perspective which feels right. The kids won’t notice, they see all in their mind anyway.