# Doper Rally in Toledo, the Armpit of the Nation **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 12, 2000, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374 "2000-02-12T19:02:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/81 "2000-03-07T23:47:00Z")
After reviewing this thread, it appears that everyone planning to attend so far is shooting for the 1st of April. It that correct, or did I miss anyone thinking about the 25th of March? ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/82 "2000-03-07T23:49:00Z")
April 1st here. šŸ™‚ * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/83 "2000-03-07T23:58:00Z")
## April 1st here too. Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson ---
**Author:** ![Imthecowgodmoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Imthecowgodmoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imthecowgodmoo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2000, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/84 "2000-03-13T06:01:00Z")
## I hate to do this too you guys again, but I will not be able to make it to either shindig. I am going to be visiting some friends of mine(read:really hot girls) in Columbus on the 25th, and will be in school for the April 1st gathering. ā€œPeople must think it must be fun to be a super genuis, But they donā€™t realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.ā€ ā€“ Calvin and Hobbes (\_\_) _/_ ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2000, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/85 "2000-03-13T06:54:00Z")
## Sigh ā˜¹ and I was looking forward to seeing how much I could pay UncleBeer to kiss you. What was the going rate? A dollar? Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2000, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/86 "2000-03-13T11:32:00Z")
Yes, the going rate **was** a dollar, but now that I have a little bit of experience, I think my market value has risen; soā€¦ Anyway, does anybody need me to post some local hotel addresses and phone numbers? Does anybody have any food or alcohol requests? Iā€™ll get Sucellus to write up some directions to his place and e-mail them to you sometime this week. ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/87 "2000-03-15T00:21:00Z")
I have a food & alcohol request! I would like food and alcohol. An inexpensive list of hotels would be nice. But I might just bring my stepsonā€™s Pokemon sleeping bag & camp on the floor. Who the hell knows? Iā€™m still winging it. Oh yeahā€“my mom is going to be keeping my kids, so she put in a special request for a phone number where we could be reached in an emergency. Iā€™ve got a cell phone, but sheā€™d like something for backup, just in case I flake out & forget to turn the cell phone on, as I am wont to do. You can email me with that. Unless you want to post your number hereā€¦heheheheheā€¦ * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/88 "2000-03-15T00:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Cristi: > **An inexpensive list of hotels would be nice. But I might just bring my stepsonā€™s Pokemon sleeping bag & camp on the floor. Who the hell knows? Iā€™m still winging it** ## I would also like a list of inexpensive hotels in the area (Iā€™m talking cheap cheap, as long as itā€™s not called the No Tell Motel). Of course, Iā€™m all for a camp out on the living room floor deal too. I have a Marlboro arctic sleeping bag that would work well for such an occasion. Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2000, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/89 "2000-03-15T20:57:00Z")
These are the 3 hotels closest the Sucellusā€™ ranch. Iā€™m afraid they about 5 miles away. Thatā€™s what happens when you live in the middle of fucking nowhere. If you [click here](http://msn.maps.expedia.com/quickmaps.asp), the link will take you to the Microsoft Expedia page. Just type the addresses below to get a map, or you can use Expedia to plan your route from home to your hotel choice. Of course your camping options are still open as well as the offer to crash at my place or Sucellusā€™. Red Roof Inn - Toledo (Holland) 1214 Corporate Dr Holland, Ohio 43528-8459 419-866-5512 800-843-7663 Fax 419-866-5886 Room Rate - $51 Credit Cards Accepted - American Express, Carte Blanche, Dinerā€™s Club, Discover, Visa, MasterCard Fairfield - Toledo (Holland) 1401 E Mall Dr Holland, Ohio 43528-9490 419-867-1144 800-228-2800 Fax 419-867-1144 Room Rate - $54 Outdoor Pool Credit Cards Accepted - American Express, Carte Blanche, Dinerā€™s Club, Discover, Visa, MasterCard Courtyard By Marriott 1435 E Mall Dr Holland, Ohio 43528-9490 419-866-1001 800-321-2211 Fax 419-866-9869 Room Rate - $83 Restaurant, Indoor Pool, Fitness Facility, Laundry Service, Spa or Sauna, Bar/Lounge/Nightclub, Free Airport Transport Credit Cards Accepted - American Express, Carte Blanche, Dinerā€™s Club, Discover, Visa, MasterCard You folks will find all this shit and more in your inboxes shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/90 "2000-03-16T01:27:00Z")
Thanks Unc! I havenā€™t downloaded the thingymabobberdoo you sent yet, but I will. Iā€™m sure itā€™s packed with vital information. Hey, will there be wine at this gathering? I must confess, I enjoy wine. White Grenache, or that pretty pink stuff that comes in a box is good too. I can bring my own if itā€™s too embarrassing for you or Sucellus to make the purchase. Or at least Iā€™ll reimburse you. šŸ™‚ * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![Sucellus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Sucellus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sucellus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2000, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/91 "2000-03-17T06:33:00Z")
Be advised: ā€œChez Sucellusā€ has hardwood floorsā€¦great for walking, not great for sleeping (sober). I do have and upstairs loft with NO furniture, but it does have nice fluffy carpeting. I urge people to consider the camping option, weather permitting. The super extended forcast is calling for either warm and sunny or cold and shitty, with a slight chance of a tornado or alien invasion. Welcome to Northwest Ohio. ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2000, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/92 "2000-03-16T23:21:00Z")
Sucellus, that weather/invasion forecast sounds just like Michigan. Thanks! Now I know how to pack. Bikini & coppertone, snomobile suit & mittens, and my alien-deflecting tinfoil hat. * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/93 "2000-03-19T22:28:00Z")
## In this entire thread, I have no mention of a time frame for this party. So when should we all start showing up for this party? If we showed up at 6 a.m., would you be upset with us? šŸ™‚ Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2000, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/94 "2000-03-19T22:30:00Z")
Sorry, that should read: ## In this entire thread, I _have seen_ no mention of a time frame for this party. So when should we all start showing up for this party? If we showed up at 6 a.m., would you be upset with us? šŸ™‚ Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/95 "2000-03-20T01:45:00Z")
Thanks for the offer, Cristi. The shindig is happening at a pretty busy time for me, but I havenā€™t given up hope of making it yet. I should know better if I can do it by the end of this week. * * * ā€œNothing is so firmly believed as what is least knownā€ - Michel Gyquem de Montaigne ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/96 "2000-03-20T12:04:00Z")
Shadow, you can show up at 6am if you like; it wonā€™t bother me one iota. At least until Sucellus calls and wakes me up. Actually, any time after about 4pm is fine. Iā€™m usually awake on the weekends by about then. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2000, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/97 "2000-03-20T21:58:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by UncleBeer: > \*\*Shadow, you can show up at 6am if you like; it wonā€™t bother me one iota. At least until Sucellus calls and wakes me up. > > Actually, any time after about 4pm is fine. Iā€™m usually awake on the weekends by about then.\*\* Actually, I was kidding about the 6 a.m. part. I have to work Friday evening, which means I wonā€™t even get to bed until at least 3 a.m. Saturday. Most hotels will not let you check in until after 3 p.m. anyway, so starting the party at 4 p.m. sounds like a good plan to me. * * * Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2000, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/98 "2000-03-21T05:41:00Z")
Milo: Drop me an email if youā€™d like to hook up before this thing, and we can work something out! The rest of the Michigan contingent: Sooo, has anyone decided on a good spot to hitch our wagons together would be? You donā€™t want to leave this decision up to me. You donā€™t. Just trust me. No, donā€™t trust me. Just tell me where to meet _you_ and Iā€™ll be there. UncleBeer: I canā€™t get that file open. I get a message saying that itā€™s either damaged, or this Dr. Watson thingy that I never knew my computer had doesnā€™t like it. I am bumming, because I really want to see the aerial shots. Oh, and has anyone located a drummer yet? * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2000, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/99 "2000-03-22T23:31:00Z")
:::hoists thread on to shoulder, lugs it back to the top::: Hey! Toledo is only a week & a half away! Yay! * * * This space blank, until Wally thinks up something cool to put here. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2000, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374/100 "2000-03-23T00:41:00Z")
I noticed in another thread that Shirley Ujest remarked that she lives in Clawson, which is only a hop, a skip and a jump from Troy, where Saraam now resides. Maybe one of us should ā€œkidnapā€ her and bring her down to Toledo. ## Cristi, about meeting somewhere so we can drive down ā€œcaravan styleā€, I need some idea as to your intended driving route. Iā€™m still trying to decide whether to take I-75 down there or US-23. Shadowfox ā€œThe dead have risen, and theyā€™re voting Republican!ā€ - Bart Simpson [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/doper-rally-in-toledo-the-armpit-of-the-nation/15374.md?page=6)