# Dopers 2005!  Chess: Royal Rumble! Doper Chess Fest!!!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [February 26, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061 "2005-02-26T22:58:14Z")
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### Author: ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/61 "2005-03-04T09:38:50Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
>
> **Glee** : Can’t you help organize as well as play? It seems a shame for you not to participate.
> 
> And I think, since people keep trickling in one or two a day, that we’ll wait until next week to close the tourney. I’d rather wait a bit too long than exclude someone who wanted to play.
> 
> If lots of people disagree, of course, we’ll run it asap.

It’s a potentially awkward position. If I am in the race for 1st place, make the draw and another leader objects…

It’s your thread and your idea. If you would like me to run it as an experienced and independent arbiter, I’m happy. Just say so, and I’ll start\*.

\*First things first:

- confirm entrants
- get grading information
- set start time
- set rules of engagement for each game
- announce number of rounds
- answer queries

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### Author: ![SpaceDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spacedog/32/9932_2.png) [@SpaceDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceDog)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/62 "2005-03-04T10:28:49Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> **SpaceDog** : Excellent. Would you please post to us if you get it to work?

OK, try [this](http://www.geocities.com/pgnchess2004/) one instead as there’s no download.

Again I don’t have a full Yahoo game to try and just pasting in

```auto

1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. g1-f3 d7-d6
3. d2-d4 f7-f6
4. f1-c4 g8-h6
5. h2-h3 c7-c6

```

doesn’t work.

Digging around it’s because it’s expecting whatever the Yahoo header information is, which means it’s looking for 15 distinct terms before the game starts, so adding something that fits this pattern encourages it to work, i.e. using

```auto

1 2 3 4
White: <WhitePlayer>
Black: <BlackPlayer>
9 10 
Jan 02 - - 2005

1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. g1-f3 d7-d6
3. d2-d4 f7-f6
4. f1-c4 g8-h6
5. h2-h3 c7-c6

```

produces

```auto

[Event "Yahoo! Chess Game"]
[Site "Yahoo! Chess"]
[Date "01-02-2005"]
[Round ""]
[White "<WhitePlayer>"]
[Black "<BlackPlayer>"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 
2. Nf3 d6 
3. d4 f6 
4. Bc4 Nh6 
5. h3 c6 1-0

```

if you mark the result as 1-0.

The cool thing is that you can then hit the View Game button and get a little interactive viewer for those that want to play along at home.

SD

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### Author: ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/63 "2005-03-04T14:11:15Z")

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That’s pretty cool.

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### Author: ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/64 "2005-03-04T14:20:17Z")

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Doesn’t work in Firefox, but runs like a dream in Explorer.

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### Author: ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/65 "2005-03-04T15:01:18Z")

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> [@glee](#):
>
> It’s a potentially awkward position. If I am in the race for 1st place, make the draw and another leader objects…

I remember you from other threads on chess; you should _definitely_ participate. I’d recommend that were such a situation to occur, we have an alternate person make the draw. You will no doubt immediately recognize when there is a potential conflict, and can thus ask the alternate to do it. Preferably, somebody that will agree to do it now that will not likely go very far. I don’t really want to do it, but if nobody else steps forward, you can look to me in a pinch.

As for my info, I’ve never been ranked in any way by any body, IRL or online. I learned as a young’un how to play, and occasionally go on yearlong jags where I’ll play several times per week against friends and family.

Without fail, I get _significantly_ better within a few weeks, then better still after a couple months, but in the beginning I’m usually pretty bad. I haven’t played in a couple years. I don’t know what that’s worth, but that’s all the info I can give you for ranking purposes.

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### Author: ![Lockz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Lockz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockz)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/66 "2005-03-04T15:05:02Z")

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I used to have a rating about ten years ago when I was a kid. No longer though; count me in as a 0.

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### Author: ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/67 "2005-03-04T15:08:19Z")

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> [@glee](#):
>
> Have you a current or former ELO rating?  
> If you have a national rating (issued by your chess federation), I can convert it.  
> Don’t worry if you have no rating!  
> .

No rating here. On Yahoo, I hover around 1200, but I usually play while distracted.

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### Author: ![Scarface\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Scarface\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarface_Z)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/68 "2005-03-04T17:53:23Z")

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I have no rating as well. Though I typically wander the 1400-1450 range in internet chess.

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### Author: ![Dubious\_Sacrifice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@Dubious\_Sacrifice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dubious_Sacrifice)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/69 "2005-03-04T18:06:38Z")

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Can I play?

Avg. Yahoo rating = ~1500.

Note: I’m a long time lurker, first time poster.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/70 "2005-03-04T21:04:35Z")

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**Glee** you have my trust. If you need to, email me at [AgentFinn@gmail.com](mailto:AgentFinn@gmail.com) and we can hash some things out.

**Dubious** , yes, you can play.

**Spacedog** , thank you.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/71 "2005-03-05T20:03:57Z")

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Just going to bump this once for the weekend, hopefully we’ll find a few new players. If not, I’ll have compiled a list, emailed people, paired them up (hopefully with **Glee** ’s help), and we’ll be able to get going on monday.

Hope everybody’s having a great weekend!

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### Author: ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2005, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/72 "2005-03-06T04:16:02Z")

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I made myself a new Yahoo account, and verified I could get into Yahoo games and play chess. I won my test game, so I now have a Yahoo ranking of 1215.

I guess my machine no longer has a problem with aplets.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/73 "2005-03-09T19:02:11Z")

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Just wanted to let everybody know that I haven’t forgotten about this, just been very busy and I’ve been using my free time to post to a few other threads. I’ll try to get an email out tonight or tomorrow at the latest. My apologies.

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### Author: ![RayMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e495f1/32.png) [@RayMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RayMan)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/74 "2005-03-12T07:16:09Z")

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Please forgive me, but I cannot think of a polite way to ask this question: are we gonna play chess or not?

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/75 "2005-03-12T09:09:10Z")

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Yes, we are going to. I’ve been ridiculously busy with school and just got to Vermont for spring break. I have a lot of free time tomorrow (saturday) so I’ll get stuff emailed out then. If you’d like to help me run this, you’re certainly welcome to pitch in.

Very sorry to everybody for not being able to hop on this sooner, but it’ll get done.

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/76 "2005-03-12T09:19:19Z")

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Damnit, I almost had a list compiled for email and then it got eaten. It’ll just take me some time to complie another list. If anybody else would like to step up and help, you’d have my appreciation. If not, I’ll have it done some time today. Expect an email.

Sorry again, I’m a poor tired overworked grad student. I beg your forgiveness 🙂

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/77 "2005-03-12T10:10:46Z")

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Ok, for SDMB-non-email-Dopers who’re playing:  
GIGOBuster is [maasuus@yahoo.com](mailto:maasuus@yahoo.com)  
Ellis Dee is [jdan37@hotmail.com](mailto:jdan37@hotmail.com)  
glee is [gdlee@btopenworld.com](mailto:gdlee@btopenworld.com)  
Lockz is [joehache@gmail.com](mailto:joehache@gmail.com)  
Elvez is [ellis@nrsweb.com](mailto:ellis@nrsweb.com)  
ITRchamption is [noone5445@yahoo.com](mailto:noone5445@yahoo.com)  
Gfactor is [gfactor999@gmail.com](mailto:gfactor999@gmail.com)  
treis is [treistetter@hotmail.com](mailto:treistetter@hotmail.com)  
Aesiron is [aesiron@gmail.com](mailto:aesiron@gmail.com)  
ronincyberpunk is [pjarrett@gmail.com](mailto:pjarrett@gmail.com)  
RayMan is r-fuller2@neiu.edu  
Dragoness is [dragonessj@gmail.com](mailto:dragonessj@gmail.com)  
Euthanasiast is [unenlightened\_one@yahoo.com](mailto:unenlightened_one@yahoo.com)  
BlackKnight is [stopthelies@hotmail.com](mailto:stopthelies@hotmail.com)  
petelin is [scott.vanderau@e3co.com](mailto:scott.vanderau@e3co.com)  
Garfield226 is [Garfield226@gmail.com](mailto:Garfield226@gmail.com)  
Really Not All That Bright is [dutchboy208@yahoo.com](mailto:dutchboy208@yahoo.com)  
Arwin is arwin@niwra.nl  
Scarface Z is zgurzym@allegheny.edu  
The Sonoran Lizard King is [dheimbuck@hotmail.com](mailto:dheimbuck@hotmail.com)  
Iceland\_Blue is [iceland\_blue@hotmail.com](mailto:iceland_blue@hotmail.com)  
Lathe of Heaven is [ana.ng@tmbg.org](mailto:ana.ng@tmbg.org)  
FinnAgain is [AgentFinn@gmail.com](mailto:AgentFinn@gmail.com)

Spacedog, no email listed  
Dubious Sacrifice, no email listed

Opening round: (Not many people gave rankings, so some folks are just playing whoever they were near in the thread)

Glee vs Rayman  
Scarface vs Dubious Sacrifice  
Spacedog vs Lockz  
GIGObuster vs GFactor  
ITRchampion vs Aesiron  
Ellis Dee vs Dragoness  
Eutnanansiast vs Treis  
Black Knight vs Iceland Blue  
Petelin vs Garfield  
Really Not all that bright vs Arwin  
Ronincyberpunk vs Elvez  
Sonoran Lizard King vs Lathe of Heaven

As we’ve got an odd number of players, I’ll sit out. If someone’s opponent doesn’t show up to play, however, I’ll take their spot.

We’ll work on getting this round done within a week, if it goes longer then it’ll go longer. If anybody needs help or to coordinate anything, feel free to contact me. Otherwise, get in touch with your partner either in this thread or in email, and let the games begin!  
(Sorry again for being so busy:()

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/78 "2005-03-12T10:24:17Z")

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Oh, Treis, I’m getting the message from Gmail that

> [@](#):
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> 
> ```
> treistetter@hotmail.com
> 
> ```
> 
> Technical details of permanent failure:  
> PERM\_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 10): 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable

Is there another email you can be reached at?

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### Author: ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/79 "2005-03-12T10:25:26Z")

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Oh and, sorry for not bolding your names everybody. I’ll try to do better in the future.  
Now I need some sleep. A good day/night to you all.

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### Author: ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2005, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-2005-chess-royal-rumble-doper-chess-fest/292061/80 "2005-03-12T12:10:00Z")

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Am I to assume that the person listed in the first column is white?

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