# Dopers in Foreign Lands!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 23, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401 "2007-02-23T16:46:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/21 "2007-02-23T20:54:17Z")

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[QUOTE=severus]  
As for Latin American dopers, I know that **Martha** is in the Dominican Republic (with several other posters whose names I forget), but I don’t think she’s a native.  
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That’s right, I’m DR-based but come from Gibraltar (somehow my location manages to refer to both these places).

RL friend **Mighty\_Girl** , who introduced me to the SDMB several years ago, is Dominican, and **RedFury** is Spanish but DR-based. Another poster recently mentioned being Dominican or living in the DR, but his name escapes me right now.

I’ve noticed several other Latin American or Latin American-based posters, like **Colibrí** in Panama, some in/from Mexico, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Venezuela **(Sapo)** and Colombia, as well as **Ale** from Uruguay who is now in Thailand.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/22 "2007-02-23T21:32:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
I saw someone post from Moscow the other day.  
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Moght have been Moscow, Idaho. 🙂

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/23 "2007-02-23T21:44:23Z")

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**Tomcat** is a fellow American living in my former home of Prague, Czech Republic.

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**Author:** ![Homo\_Ergaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Homo\_Ergaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homo_Ergaster)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/24 "2007-02-23T22:11:49Z")

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I’m from Peru and I know there’s a couple of non-Peru dopers living here.

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**Author:** ![robcaro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@robcaro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robcaro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/25 "2007-02-23T23:13:00Z")

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I am from the USA and live in Bogota, Colombia. Have been here for 4 years.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/26 "2007-02-23T23:18:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Martha]  
**Colibrí** in Panama  
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I’m a US expat, but since I’ve lived in Panama nearly 17 years now, and will been working in the country for 30 years come March 16, my friends tell me I’m _casi panameño._ I’m not sure that’s such a good thing, especially with respect to my driving habits. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Antonius\_Block](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Antonius\_Block](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antonius_Block)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/27 "2007-02-24T00:59:26Z")

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**Zeldar** started [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=381975) thread last July, asking non-USA-based Dopers to stand up and be counted.

He later asked me to take the thread over, and as of August 13 we had counted 331 Dopers living outside the US: [100 Canadians](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7674892&postcount=243), [78 in the UK / Ireland / Isle of Man](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7674894&postcount=244), [59 in Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Pacific Islands)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7674896&postcount=245), and [47 in Europe (non-UK etc), Asia & Middle East, Latin America & Caribbean, and Africa](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7674896&postcount=246).

I’ve been maintaining a somewhat haphazard list (using the [Zeldarizer](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7647287&postcount=182) when I see a new candidate while reading a thread), but haven’t made the effort to format my data and update **Zeldar** ’s thread. We’re definitely over 500 non-USA-based Dopers, however, even accounting for the fact that some Dopers from the earlier have left the SDMB or moved back to the USA. [Most of the non-USA-based Dopers are in anglophone countries, of course, but the posts linked to above are sorted by country.]

If anyone’s interested, I could probably update the lists in that thread. My best guess is that there are currently about 50 Dopers in non-Anglophone _countries_, with a dozen or so more in Quebec.

[In answer to posts upthread: 1) the current Moscow Dopers are **Timchik** and **Surok** ; 2) there appear to be [7 Dopers in France](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7674898&postcount=246), now that **Angua** ’s crossed the Channel.]

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/28 "2007-02-24T01:16:15Z")

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Oceania? We need someone from Sealand darnit!

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/29 "2007-02-24T01:36:36Z")

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Lived in Shanghai for the past 9 years. Been in China, Taiwan, HK and Japan since 1982 (with 3 years back in the US to finish degrees).

American from norcal

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**Author:** ![Antonius\_Block](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Antonius\_Block](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antonius_Block)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/30 "2007-02-24T01:47:50Z")

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Hmm… looks like I messed up some of the numbers in my post #27 above, together with the most important link.

[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7674898&postcount=246) should link to last August’s list with **47** in mainland Europe (non-UK etc), **25** in Asia & Middle East, **16** in Latin America & Caribbean, and **6** in Africa (although 5 of those are in South Africa, where English is one of the official languages).

So, with arrivals and departures since last August, I’d guess just short of 100 Dopers in non-anglophone countries (plus the dozen or so in Quebec).

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/31 "2007-02-24T02:08:03Z")

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**Antonius Block** to keep your comprehensive work up to date, I am in Nederland (the Netherlands)

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**Author:** ![GomezK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cab0a1/32.png) [@GomezK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomezK)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/32 "2007-02-24T07:19:41Z")

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Dubai, UAE here

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/33 "2007-02-24T08:20:57Z")

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[QUOTE=EuroMDguy]  
Contrary to my dopername - I currently live in Germany…Guess I should change my name now from EuroMDguy to EuroDEguy  
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Tja…ask the guy who gave himself the name of your outdated currency. I might as well have named myself Ishtar.

I know we have/had a Doper from Iceland and there are some from China…but I have always wondered why there are so few (if any?) from South America - I mean, come on - no Dopers from Argentina or Brazil or Venezuela?

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/34 "2007-02-24T10:48:29Z")

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Yo.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/35 "2007-02-24T14:56:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Noone Special]

Another Israeli doper is **Alessan**. I think he’s also semi-ex-pat along pretty much the same lines as me, and not native Israeli-born, too, but I’m not sure.  
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Close enough - the way I like to think of it, I was born in Israel _and_ I moved here when I was 6 years old.

See, I was born in Israel to American immigrants, who took me back to the States with them when I was an infant. We came back when I was six, and except for two years in New York in my late 20’s, I’ve lived here ever since. I consider myself as an Israeli (of American heritage), I’m a U.S. citizen, and I grew up in an English-speaking household.

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**Author:** ![Shecky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@Shecky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shecky)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/36 "2007-02-24T15:09:37Z")

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I post for 2 months out of the year from Brazil, but I’m US native born. Does that count?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/37 "2007-02-24T15:14:58Z")

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**Charlie Tan** (changed from another name, as I recall, but I don’t recall what), is from Skane – i.e., the southern tip of Sweden that was Danish for centuries, and still has its own unique culture – “Swedish _ **but…** _” the way a Texan, Alaskan, or Hawaiian will strongly emphasize his/her own Americanness but also point out the differences from “whitebread heartland American.”

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**Author:** ![VanillaGorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@VanillaGorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanillaGorilla)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/38 "2007-02-24T16:32:37Z")

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I’m from Stockholm, Sweden. Seems there are quite a few scandinavians here!

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**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/39 "2007-02-24T19:35:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Polycarp]  
**Charlie Tan** (changed from another name, as I recall, but I don’t recall what), is from Skane – i.e., the southern tip of Sweden that was Danish for centuries, and still has its own unique culture – “Swedish _ **but…** _” the way a Texan, Alaskan, or Hawaiian will strongly emphasize his/her own Americanness but also point out the differences from “whitebread heartland American.”  
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That’s interesting, **Polycarp**. I wasn’t aware of the distinctiveness of this region of Sweden. (I’d never heard of it, actually.)

By the way, his former username was **The Gaspode**.

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**Author:** ![Caractacus\_Pott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Caractacus\_Pott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caractacus_Pott)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-in-foreign-lands/393401/40 "2007-02-25T10:21:43Z")

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Add an American ex-pat in Japan to the list. I’ve been here 4 months and am quite sure I’ll never be more than a _baka gaijin_.

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