# Dopers who long to kill, or fantasize about killing, certain groups of strangers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966 "2019-02-21T15:38:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/21 "2019-02-21T19:46:52Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I have a feeling there are many Americans who are into ‘execution fantasy’. They become aroused whenever they think of someone being executed (or better yet, imagine themselves doing it themselves – legally, or extra-legally), and I suspect many of them ‘fantasize to completion’. > > At least that’s the impression they give with their bloodthirsty rants. Do you have any examples of such rants? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/22 "2019-02-21T19:51:33Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Do you have any examples of such rants? Not here. But I see plenty in the comments of Yahoo articles and other places. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/23 "2019-02-21T20:02:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Not here. But I see plenty in the comments of Yahoo articles and other places. I mean, “other places” would include literally thousands of movies, the archetypes being _Death Wish_, _Dirty Harry_, _Rambo_… ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/24 "2019-02-21T20:11:17Z")
My initial thought is that any thread discussing **cyclists** or **protests** will have at least a few posters advocating that the primary function of the automobile is to mow down other humans that are not in automobiles. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/25 "2019-02-21T20:34:02Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Decided to promote yourself to board commissar, eh? This is a good start. Begin by othering some easy targets. Goddammit, I read this far, and thought, “WillFarnaby’s posting again,” then went and checked, and realized I was reading Scumpup. Waste of time. Fun fact, though: Scumpup can anagram into PP mucus. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/26 "2019-02-21T20:49:03Z")
Several months back DavidwithaBanhammer [pitted](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=856990) the guy who killed the only guy who had a proven track record in murdering the president. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/27 "2019-02-21T21:18:24Z")
Goodness me, **Scumpup** features prominently in [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=457872) too. (which I was able to search up because I remembered so vividly that people were vile in it, not particularly WHICH people were vile. In case you’re wondering) Shout out to **Shagnasty** too, who reaches a higher Genocide Body Count in that thread than any of the other candidates so far ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/28 "2019-02-21T22:14:52Z")
I thought you were kidding, or that what he said wouldn’t actually be that bad. Nope: > [@Parents - would you sacrifice SOMEONE ELSE'S life for your child?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-would-you-sacrifice-someone-elses-life-for-your-child/439582/14): > > I am not really opposed to genocide in general as long as it doesn’t affect me or my family. It is a simple fact of sociobiology and human nature as well as a recurring theme in human history. It is going on all over the world right now and there isn’t enough news space to cover it all. A lot of it is sub-optimal and even cruel but it isn’t like it will ever go away. Given that, I might as well have a turn for my purposes some time. > > BTW, this deal is way sweeter than having to sacrifice myself for my child. This is what you call a win-win. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/29 "2019-02-21T22:31:20Z")
Seems like a weird pit thread, you are selecting a general topic that needs pitting and then we all name names, and we create a Message Board “Black List” or something? That’s not like most pit threads I’ve ever seen. Violent fantasies is sort of an interesting topic though, I’ve read stuff about how the same people that end up killing people or doing mass shootings, or just violent fantasies in general where they are the bad guy, often are the same people who have fantasies of being the hero, and the good guy that saves the day, the fantasy must satisfy something the person craves, I guess just power, domination, fear, respect? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/30 "2019-02-21T22:35:05Z")
> [@pool](#): > > Seems like a weird pit thread, you are selecting a general topic that needs pitting and then we all name names, and we create a Message Board “Black List” or something? That’s not like most pit threads I’ve ever seen. > > Violent fantasies is sort of an interesting topic though, I’ve read stuff about how the same people that end up killing people or doing mass shootings, or just violent fantasies in general where they are the bad guy, often are the same fantasies of being the hero, and the good guy, the fantasy must satisfy something the person craves, I guess just power, domination, fear, respect? It’s meant to be like the other omnibus threads. And I agree that it’s an interesting topic. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/31 "2019-02-21T22:49:59Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I thought you were kidding, or that what he said wouldn’t actually be that bad. Nope: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/32 "2019-02-22T00:09:52Z")
It’s entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don’t own guns. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/33 "2019-02-22T00:11:58Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > It’s entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don’t own guns. 😉 Squirt guns don’t count. 😉 I keed, I keed. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/34 "2019-02-22T00:32:18Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > It’s entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don’t own guns. 😉 At least when we make bombs, they go off. And by the way, Jack Ruby _deserves_ pitting. Not for the reason cited but for denying the country the chance to learn from the source if Oswald actually was the assassin, and if he acted alone or as part of a large group. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/35 "2019-02-22T01:13:31Z")
I’ll bet any and everything the HD longs for the day to be able to shoot someone. Anyone. Though preferably brown people. He WANTS someone to knock on his door wrong. Or accidentally step foot in his yard. I’ve known too many idiots with fantasies like that. The question with them isn’t “without a gun, how will you protect yourself if someone breaks in?” It’s “without a gun, if someone breaks in, how are you going to shoot them?” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/36 "2019-02-22T01:40:27Z")
I just want to say that the very eloquent thread title is wonderful and gives me the warm fuzzies. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/37 "2019-02-22T01:46:03Z")
I don’t want to kill people, but I think America is so divided that we’d be better off if we could have 2 different governments. Like if all the urban areas could form one unified nation and all the rural areas form their nation and we live by different laws. The divide isnt’ blue vs red states, its urban vs rural. I think we’d get along better if that happened. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/38 "2019-02-22T01:48:00Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > It’s entertaining how many right-wingers assume liberals don’t own guns. 😉 > **[Fearing Trump Supporters, Now Liberals Are Buying Guns](https://knpr.org/show/knprs-state-of-nevada/2017-01-10/fearing-trump-supporters-now-liberals-are-buying-guns)** > > Just before November’s election, gun sales in America shot through the roof. This was the storyline: Gun owners feared Hillary Clinton would, somehow,… I think a lot of right wingers assume liberals would passively cower in fear while a bunch of elderly baby boomers used pistols and shotguns to try to establish a neofascist, white nationalist ethnostate. If you watch videos like this, when a white right winger pulls a gun, people aren’t afraid they way they are thinking they will be. People know they are fighting for decency, democracy, rule of law, etc. at this point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDXXjqo66w ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/39 "2019-02-22T02:25:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s meant to be like the other omnibus threads. And I agree that it’s an interesting topic. You specifically solicited the naming of names, you slimy self-righteous POS. Omnibus thread, my ass. Your goal is to drive people from the board. When did this place become about enemies lists? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/40 "2019-02-22T02:53:15Z")
[quote=“Wesley\_Clark, post:38, topic:829966”] > **[Fearing Trump Supporters, Now Liberals Are Buying Guns](https://knpr.org/show/knprs-state-of-nevada/2017-01-10/fearing-trump-supporters-now-liberals-are-buying-guns)** > > Just before November’s election, gun sales in America shot through the roof. This was the storyline: Gun owners feared Hillary Clinton would, somehow,… I think a lot of right wingers assume liberals would passively cower in fear while a bunch of elderly baby boomers used pistols and shotguns to try to establish a neofascist, white nationalist ethnostate. If you watch videos like this, when a white right winger pulls a gun, people aren’t afraid they way they are thinking they will be. People know they are fighting for decency, democracy, rule of law, etc. at this point. [/QUOTE] I know plenty of “elderly baby boomers” who are absolutely against a “neofascist white nationalist ethnostate”, and I also know of many young people who would be for it. This idea that it’s all the baby boomers acting this way is bullshit. (In fact, the majority of the boomers in my family are rabidly anti-Trump. My dad’s starting to get a little TOO radical, in fact. It’s kind of annoying) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966.md?page=3)