# Dopers who long to kill, or fantasize about killing, certain groups of strangers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966 "2019-02-21T15:38:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/101 "2019-03-02T02:36:30Z")
Hey, don’t knock **Ditka** , guys. He’s just a guy who thought the Oklahoma City bombings were reasonable. And he kind of wants to join an insurgency that would get to kill liberals. And he’s ABSOLUTELY SURE that his side would utterly slaughter the liberals if they ever fought it out. And he really, really loves to talk about the logistics and strategy of ‘hypothetically’ killing liberals. Certainly nothing worth criticizing there, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/102 "2019-03-02T20:53:20Z")
This thread has changed my opinion, not that I had one going in. If **Velocity** (or anyone) keeps making topics about hypothetical events involving killing, even if everyone else grows tired of participating in them, **HurricaneDitka** never will. I’m convinced. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/103 "2019-11-15T13:47:41Z")
No surprise to see that most bloodthirsty (and cowardly) of Dopers, **HurricaneDitka** , all overg this thread about what would make Dopers take violent action: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=885367](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=885367) > [@What would it take for you to take up violent/semi-violent action against a government?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-it-take-for-you-to-take-up-violent-semi-violent-action-against-a-government/843453/7): > > With regard to this part, I’d like to point out that I know various gun owners who don’t have any intention of waiting until “ATF comes to their home in force, with dozens of SWAT officers”. Really, if you’re trying to stage an armed rebellion, laying back and letting your enemies choose the time of your battle is doing it all wrong. Sun Tzu wrote “If he is in superior strength, evade him” and “Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.” That seems like pretty sound advice to me. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/104 "2019-11-15T15:02:36Z")
No offense man, but that’s a thread asking for people’s opinion. And he gave his. Are you going to go to another thread every time HD posts something and say “Hey look everyone, HD is posting stuff again!” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/105 "2019-11-15T15:18:45Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > No offense man, but that’s a thread asking for people’s opinion. And he gave his. Are you going to go to another thread every time HD posts something and say “Hey look everyone, HD is posting stuff again!” Only if I happen to notice him post something that fits into his pattern of cowardice, dishonesty, misogyny, bloodlust, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/106 "2019-11-15T15:29:37Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Only if I happen to notice him post something that fits into his pattern of cowardice, dishonesty, misogyny, bloodlust, etc. So, every post then? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/107 "2019-11-15T15:51:33Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > So, every post then? 🙂 I don’t have the time… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/108 "2019-11-15T17:51:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No surprise to see that most bloodthirsty (and cowardly) of Dopers, **HurricaneDitka** , all overg this thread about what would make Dopers take violent action: > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=885367](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=885367) 1)He never said that is what he would do. 2)You have a mad hard-on for him. See if he will hookup with you. 3)Study this concept carefully and apply as needed [Psychological projection - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/109 "2019-11-15T17:59:50Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > 1)He never said that is what he would do. There are numerous other examples of his desire to harm others discussed in this thread. > [@](#): > > 2)You have a mad hard-on for him. See if he will hookup with you. Do you often fantasize about other Dopers ‘hooking up’ together? Have you explored why? There’s nothing wrong with such fantasies, of course, as long as one keeps them private or only shares them with consenting adults. > [@](#): > > 3)Study this concept carefully and apply as needed [Psychological projection - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection) I don’t follow – are you saying that I am psychologically projecting my desire to harm liberals onto HD? Or something else? Do you have a cite about something I’ve posted that would make you feel this way? Thanks for your thoughts! I’m eager to better understand what you’re trying to get at here. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/110 "2019-11-15T19:29:52Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Only if I happen to notice him post something that fits into his pattern of cowardice, dishonesty, misogyny, bloodlust, etc. The very best commissars are those who appoint themselves and do the job for the feeling of virtue it gives them. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/111 "2019-11-15T19:33:16Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > There are numerous other examples of his desire to harm others discussed in this thread. > > Do you often fantasize about other Dopers ‘hooking up’ together? Have you explored why? There’s nothing wrong with such fantasies, of course, as long as one keeps them private or only shares them with consenting adults. > > I don’t follow – are you saying that I am psychologically projecting my desire to harm liberals onto HD? Or something else? Do you have a cite about something I’ve posted that would make you feel this way? > > Thanks for your thoughts! I’m eager to better understand what you’re trying to get at here. No. And your pretend being dense would have you calling someone else a so-called ‘sea lion’ and spamming the report button if it were you reading it instead of writing it. You and a few others here (and elsewhere) enjoy playing this manipulation game. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/112 "2019-11-15T19:37:01Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > No. And your pretend being dense would have you calling someone else a so-called ‘sea lion’ and spamming the report button if it were you reading it instead of writing it. You and a few others here (and elsewhere) enjoy playing this manipulation game. Sad. What are you saying ‘No’ to here? There’s like 5 or 6 questions in iiandyiiii’s post. Also, this is not sealioning nor manipulation. It’s an effective way to respond to insults. For instance: “You’re a jerk!” “Well, I don’t think I’m a jerk, but thanks for letting me know your thoughts on me. Any ideas on how I can be less of a jerk in your eyes?” See? It’s great. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/113 "2019-11-15T19:38:12Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > What are you saying ‘No’ to here? There’s like 5 or 6 questions in iiandyiiii’s post. > > Also, this is not sealioning nor manipulation. It’s an effective way to respond to insults. > > For instance: > > “You’re a jerk!” > > “Well, I don’t think I’m a jerk, but thanks for letting me know your thoughts on me. Any ideas on how I can be less of a jerk in your eyes?” > > See? It’s great. Effective how? It’s obviously absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/114 "2019-11-15T19:41:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Effective how? It’s obviously absurd. Absurd can be effective. As far as I can tell, he is honestly interested in opinions of people like that. I do that, even though I don’t actually care what posters think about me, because it’s a way to mock people who insult you. The insulters usually don’t actually care about carrying on a conversation about their insult, they just go away. And I get to laugh 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/115 "2019-11-15T19:42:08Z")
Criticism and even insults can be a great opportunity for self improvement! I want to be a better person, and I think folks who interact with me for giving me that opportunity. 🙂 And yes, I’m very interested in the views of folks who disagree with me – even those who really, really disagree with me, and even dislike me. I want to know all about their thoughts, since there’s the most opportunity to learn from those who think very differently from me. IMO, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/116 "2019-11-15T19:43:16Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Criticism and even insults can be a great opportunity for self improvement! I want to be a better person, and I think folks who interact with me for giving me that opportunity. 🙂 LOL, see? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/117 "2019-11-15T19:46:35Z")
It can be a bit silly, of course… but silly things can sometimes get to the truth. I really do want to learn how others think, especially those who think differently than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/118 "2019-11-15T19:49:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Criticism and even insults can be a great opportunity for self improvement! I want to be a better person, and I think folks who interact with me for giving me that opportunity. 🙂 > > And yes, I’m very interested in the views of folks who disagree with me – even those who really, really disagree with me, and even dislike me. I want to know all about their thoughts, since there’s the most opportunity to learn from those who think very differently from me. IMO, of course. Yeah…you’ve pretty well perfected this shtick. All you want is to be a better person in a better world. Yet, somehow, you seem vastly more concerned with what is wrong with _other people_ when one reads more than one of your posts in isolation. Can you point us to a post of yours where, funnily enough, you were the asshole and the whole farrago ended with you having to change for the better? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/119 "2019-11-15T19:52:35Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I do that, even though I don’t actually care what posters think about me, because it’s a way to mock people who insult you. The insulters usually don’t actually care about carrying on a conversation about their insult, they just go away. And I get to laugh 🙂 Tell me more… ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966/120 "2019-11-15T19:54:42Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Yeah…you’ve pretty well perfected this shtick. All you want is to be a better person in a better world. Yet, somehow, you seem vastly more concerned with what is wrong with _other people_ when one reads more than one of your posts in isolation. Can you point us to a post of yours where, funnily enough, you were the asshole and the whole farrago ended with you having to change for the better? If it helps narrow the search, I don’t think it’s physically possible for any human being to feel like _they_ are the asshole when they’re talking to you or Octopus [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-long-to-kill-or-fantasize-about-killing-certain-groups-of-strangers/829966.md?page=7)