# Dopers Who Support Reparatritions For Slaves

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 15, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990 "2011-05-15T15:27:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/1 "2011-05-15T15:27:33Z")

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For those of you who wish to repatriate slaves, would you be willing to demand that the governments of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya repay Spain, Italy, France, and Portugal for the Barbary Coast slave raids in the 16th and 17th Centuries?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/2 "2011-05-15T15:28:47Z")

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Is this about [repatriation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation), or [reparations](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_%28transitional_justice%29)?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/3 "2011-05-15T15:29:27Z")

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Repatriate?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/4 "2011-05-15T15:48:30Z")

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I’ve never seen anyone on the Dope support repatriation for slaves. It’s a concept that died off centuries ago. A few support reparations. They’re definitely not the same thing.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/5 "2011-05-15T15:51:54Z")

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What’s all this talk about Reparatritions For Slaves?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/6 "2011-05-15T15:54:49Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> What’s all this talk about Reparatritions For Slaves?

Parturitions? Do whut?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/7 "2011-05-15T16:04:14Z")

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Reparations or reparatritions or whatever…this subject is like a bad penny. It keeps coming up for no good reason.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/8 "2011-05-15T16:07:15Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> For those of you who wish to repatriate slaves, would you be willing to demand that the governments of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya repay Spain, Italy, France, and Portugal for the Barbary Coast slave raids in the 16th and 17th Centuries?

So, who are you arguing with, exactly?

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/9 "2011-05-15T16:08:09Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’ve never seen anyone on the Dope support repatriation for slaves. It’s a concept that died off centuries ago.

Well… “centuries” is an exaggeration there. It was considered a possible “solution” to the black “problem” among most white American abolitionists one and one-half centuries ago (Caribbean exile was also big). It was advocated by some 20th-century black leaders such as Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X (though he changed his mind).

Not that it has ever made much sense from any perspective except the most stupid-racist. Black Americans have not been the “same people” as any African population for, yes, centuries.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/10 "2011-05-15T16:36:08Z")

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To answer the OP, I don’t think any government is owed reparations. Reparations, if owed, are owed to the individuals who suffered.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/11 "2011-05-15T16:47:38Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> Well… “centuries” is an exaggeration there. It was considered a possible “solution” to the black “problem” among most white American abolitionists one and one-half centuries ago (Caribbean exile was also big). It was advocated by some 20th-century black leaders such as Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X (though he changed his mind).

That’s true. I was thinking more in terms of U.S. policy, like the establishment of Liberia and Lincoln’s apparent support for the idea at one point. But that’s more like ‘more than a century’ than ‘centuries.’

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/12 "2011-05-15T16:52:33Z")

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My family came to America in about 1910. My grandfather worked in coal mines until the auto companies seemed like a better career move.  
I fail to see how we owe slaves anything. We came here after slavery and did not contribute to it.  
When the rights of black people were being fought for, I marched with them in the streets.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/13 "2011-05-15T17:00:08Z")

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Can we figure out what the debate is before we trot out the cliched stories about innocent hard-working immigrant ancestors?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/14 "2011-05-15T17:08:04Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Can we figure out what the debate is before we trot out the cliched stories about innocent hard-working immigrant ancestors?

Yeah, really. The OP needs to figure out which one of these two concepts he’s talking about - and if he’s talking about repatriation, he needs to cite Dopers supporting that idea. I’ve never seen it and I wonder if he’s drawing some odd implications from the South Africa debate.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/15 "2011-05-15T17:10:34Z")

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What’s all this about repartitioning slaves? Seems to me after you’ve drawn and quartered a slave once, doing it again is redundant.

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**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/16 "2011-05-15T17:13:27Z")

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I thought it was about reparroting pirate slavers. They’re lost without their little avian buddies

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/17 "2011-05-15T17:17:45Z")

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AAAAARgh!!!

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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/18 "2011-05-15T18:07:42Z")

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What’s wrong with repartitioning my hard drive?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/19 "2011-05-15T18:16:36Z")

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I used to partition my slave drive back when hard disks weren’t PC. Well, they were _PC_, just not PC. You know what I mean?

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dopers-who-support-reparatritions-for-slaves/581990/20 "2011-05-15T18:24:21Z")

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I always partition my saliva well away from my Salvia. Aunt Sylvia told me to do this.

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