# Dougie\_monty is an immoral cultist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993 "2014-08-20T13:31:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/321 "2014-08-26T13:59:41Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > I should have replied to this post first. Excuse me. > > Ignorance, eh? I guess I am to assume that on this topic you have, or cite, specific knowledge I don’t have. What good does it do me? If you can’t figure out how learning and expanding your knowledge will help you - ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/322 "2014-08-26T14:06:57Z")
> [@simster](#): > > If you can’t figure out how learning and expanding your knowledge will help you - Help me what, in this topic? Or is it infra dig for you to tell me? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/323 "2014-08-26T14:35:19Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > No, I was in Dr. Greer ’ s class in Fall 1983. Apparently he died about 1990. ☹ I also took Piano with Dr. James Hurd (he looked like Ted Lange of \* Love Boat). \*and Professor June Lusk Nelson. 🙂 Oh. AFTER my time, then. I had Hurd for Music Appreciation, and several years ago my sister-in-law booked my wife to sing a wedding at her church in Lawndale, and Dr. Hurd was the organist. [del]Who did Professor Nelson look like?[/del] Never mind. we’re _supposed_ to be talking about what a horrible person you are here! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/324 "2014-08-26T14:59:24Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Help me what, in this topic? Or is it infra dig for you to tell me? If you like wallowing in ignorance - and it seems you do - that’s your issue. Go - enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/325 "2014-08-26T15:35:43Z")
That’s too bad. I was expecting you to answer my question. I guess that’s too much to ask. ---
**Author:** ![PorchePine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@PorchePine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PorchePine)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/326 "2014-08-26T15:58:12Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > That’s too bad. I was expecting you to answer my question. I guess that’s too much to ask. Maybe he had to go do more research. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/327 "2014-08-26T15:58:38Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > That’s too bad. I was expecting you to answer my question. I guess that’s too much to ask. What question? This exchange? > [@simster](#): > > If you can’t figure out how learning and expanding your knowledge will help you - > > > [@dougie\_monty](#): > > > > Help me what, in this topic? Or is it infra dig for you to tell me? Because - well, the first question is a non-sequitur to the previous general statement. and I don’t even understand the second non-sensical question. And given your history for answering questions - rather ironic. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/328 "2014-08-26T16:30:19Z")
Since this site is for fighting ignorance and I’m afraid that some of the glib replies might have given monty the wrong impression, here are a couple of notes. Especially since exposing himself to these particular works might do him a world of good. > [@Smeghead](#): > > He’s NOT the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy!! > Anyone want to give odds on whether or not dougie will recognize THAT reference? The reference in question is not to Handel, but instead is a[direct quote](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw) from one of the [funniest movies in existence](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079470/quotes) and a must watch for anyone who wants to study the bible in its historical context. > [@DrFidelius](#): > > Anyone who says “countless tomes” unironically is a person who clearly demonstrates they do not “get” the concept or utility of books. > > Unless they live in Innsmouth. For the record Innsmouth doesn’t actually have anything to do with Biden, but instead refers to a fictional town developed [H. P. Lovecraft](https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/9494.H_P_Lovecraft) by one of the most influential horror writers of the 20th century, whose Cthulhu mythos have become their of genre, and whose works often refers to ancient tomes of forbidden knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/329 "2014-08-26T16:34:56Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > …and whose works often refers to ancient tomes of forbidden knowledge. _Eldritch_ ancient tomes. Can’t forget the eldritch! You make a good point. Honestly, I have been deliberately making references that I know **dougie** won’t get. It’s fun, in a sad twisted way, but unbecoming. **dougie\_monty** , you have my apologies. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/330 "2014-08-26T16:37:19Z")
> [@simster](#): > > What question? > > This exchange? > > Because - well, the first question is a non-sequitur to the previous general statement. and I don’t even understand the second non-sensical question. > > And given your history for answering questions - rather ironic. I was referring to your response in Post #321. If you need more detail, feel free to ask me. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/331 "2014-08-26T16:41:28Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Oh. AFTER my time, then. I had Hurd for Music Appreciation, and several years ago my sister-in-law booked my wife to sing a wedding at her church in Lawndale, and Dr. Hurd was the organist. > > [del]Who did Professor Nelson look like?[/del] Never mind. we’re _supposed_ to be talking about what a horrible person you are here! Prof. Nelson was an older woman–a very nice lady, very good teacher. Caucasian, dark hair, average height and build. Who is “we”, Kemo Sabe? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/332 "2014-08-26T16:46:32Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > I was referring to your response in Post #321. If you need more detail, feel free to ask me. Which was - > [@simster](#): > > If you can’t figure out how learning and expanding your knowledge will help you - which is a rhetorical, general statement - while its germane to this specific topic, its more of a statement regarding your general dismissal of information that run counter to your “current” understanding for any given topic. I would refer you to the previous thread on ‘strawberry pizza’ as a prime example. The complete statement for 321 would be - If you can’t figure out how learning and expanding your knowledge will help you - no one else can help you either. Have a pleasant day. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/333 "2014-08-26T17:57:28Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Which was - > > which is a rhetorical, general statement - while its germane to this specific topic, its more of a statement regarding your general dismissal of information that run counter to your “current” understanding for any given topic. > > I would refer you to the previous thread on ‘strawberry pizza’ as a prime example. > > The complete statement for 321 would be - > > If you can’t figure out how learning and expanding your knowledge will help you - no one else can help you either. > > Have a pleasant day. I am certainly not averse to expanding my knowledge about anything. Much of my life, however, I have been the target of those who, I suspect, have acted not out of Noble Motives but were pushing my buttons to get a rise out of me or leave me in a miserable quandary. So a bell still rings in my head sometimes, and, I confess, I get over - defensive. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/334 "2014-08-26T18:24:14Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Prof. Nelson was an older woman–a very nice lady, very good teacher. Caucasian, dark hair, average height and build. > > Who is “we”, Kemo Sabe? Please don’t drag Tonto into this mess. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/335 "2014-08-26T18:25:32Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Who is “we”, Kemo Sabe? The participants in this thread. Everybody else is supposed to be discussing what a horrible person you are, and you’re supposed to be defending yourself against the assertion. I don’t see it, myself. As I’ve stated elsewhere, I regard you as a bit of a twit, albeit a relatively harmless one. Cheers! 🙂 ETA: _Strawberry Pizza thread?_ Link, please! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/336 "2014-08-26T18:48:43Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The participants in this thread. Everybody else is supposed to be discussing what a horrible person you are, and you’re supposed to be defending yourself against the assertion. > > I don’t see it, myself. As I’ve stated elsewhere, I regard you as a bit of a twit, albeit a relatively harmless one. Cheers! 🙂 > > ETA: _Strawberry Pizza thread?_ Link, please! 😃 As requested - starting @148 or so - [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=706225&highlight=strawberry+pizza](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=706225&highlight=strawberry+pizza) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/337 "2014-08-26T19:07:50Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > I am certainly not averse to expanding my knowledge about anything. Much of my life, however, I have been the target of those who, I suspect, have acted not out of Noble Motives but were pushing my buttons to get a rise out of me or leave me in a miserable quandary. So a bell still rings in my head sometimes, and, I confess, I get over - defensive. So it’s not just us? Do other people besides SDMB members call you out when you don’t back up your assertions and try to disseminate your way out of it? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/338 "2014-08-26T20:59:41Z")
> [@simster](#): > > As requested - starting @148 or so - [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=706225&highlight=strawberry+pizza](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=706225&highlight=strawberry+pizza) Ta. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/339 "2014-08-26T21:26:21Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So it’s not just us? Do other people besides SDMB members call you out when you don’t back up your assertions and try to disseminate your way out of it? Well…not exactly. What I mean is that there are those who like to bait me, for whatever reason, and I get rattled and disorganized trying to defend myself. I have found it ironic that it’s the \* others \* who have caught ME off guard by citing various Watchtower publications, some of which I am not familiar with. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/340 "2014-08-26T21:35:11Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Well…not exactly. What I mean is that there are those who like to bait me, for whatever reason, and I get rattled and disorganized trying to defend myself. > I have found it ironic that it’s the \* others \* who have caught ME off guard by citing various Watchtower publications, some of which I am not familiar with. Never presume that your opponent is as uninformed as you are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993.md?page=18)