# Dougie\_monty is an immoral cultist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993 "2014-08-20T13:31:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/41 "2014-08-20T23:31:25Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > You don’t know that. Maybe he gave her the HIV. I here that’s going around. Did he bump into her on the street or did he have secret anal sex with her while she slept? I’ve heard that’s how you get it these days. ---
**Author:** ![wipetheclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@wipetheclock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wipetheclock)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/42 "2014-08-21T00:13:41Z")
**Dougie** , what’s the appropriate punishment for threating physical harm on someone? ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/43 "2014-08-21T00:25:31Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > Is a simple yes or no too much for you? Either you are ok with taking away a 16 year olds church and social circle and then making him homeless because he did some drinking and had sex or you aren’t. [Shrug] Well, I could look at this from the standpoint of the girl, or her parents, who might want to draw and quarter the kid for all I know. Somehow I sense that, although I agree that full ostracism is too severe (especially in the case of a minor), you don’t give a damn about the girl or her parents and would just as soon hope the whole matter will quietly go away. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/44 "2014-08-21T00:28:04Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Did he bump into her on the street or did he have secret anal sex with her while she slept? I’ve heard that’s how you get it these days. Ask Forrest Gump and Jenny.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/45 "2014-08-21T00:31:01Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Just so I’m clear: are you saying if the teenage daughter of an elder had consensual sex, she should be shunned by her family? Because if so, that’s not helping your case. Well, it isn’t doing yours much good…what would you do with a promiscuous teenage daughter? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/46 "2014-08-21T00:34:56Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Well, it isn’t doing yours much good…what would you do with a promiscuous teenage daughter? Make sure she understands to use a condom and that facials are for marriage. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/47 "2014-08-21T00:38:02Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > [Shrug] Well, I could look at this from the standpoint of the girl, or her parents, who might want to draw and quarter the kid for all I know. Somehow I sense that, although I agree that full ostracism is too severe (especially in the case of a minor), you don’t give a damn about the girl or her parents and would just as soon hope the whole matter will quietly go away. Ok, so you agree that it was not an appropriate response. That’s all I wanted, clarification on your earlier statements. Actually I don’t really care about the girls parents, nor do I ‘care’ about her if she was a willing participant. (We don’t know her age from the description, but I doubt that it would be illegal) Teenagers have sex, teenagers often drink…this is not at all unusual. Each set of parents should talk to their own child and since they are minors, they may choose to say that they can’t see each other. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/48 "2014-08-21T01:02:31Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Well, it isn’t doing yours much good…what would you do with a promiscuous teenage daughter? I’d let the motherfucker without sin throw the first stone, if I was a real Christian, is what I’d do. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/49 "2014-08-21T01:02:56Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Oh, come on–how many parts ARE there? to that question or to puppies? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/50 "2014-08-21T01:04:56Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Well, it isn’t doing yours much good…what would you do with a promiscuous teenage daughter? education, discussion - open and honest - but throwing out of the house and everything she might know - not even close. Keep in mind that the Watchtower does not discuss anything about sex and sexuality) “open and honestly” - its all hidden, etc. (this is entirely like just about ‘every’ religious group out there, but its the problem - not the solution. Do you think throwing her out of the house is going to “stop” the promiscuity? Now, if she’s doing tricks in the living room during bible study - and not giving the house it’s cut - yeah - pitch the bitch. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/51 "2014-08-21T01:07:00Z")
Jesus, this thread is like watching a boxing match between Paula Jones and Tonya Harding. No matter who wins, we all lose. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/52 "2014-08-21T01:12:41Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Make sure she understands to use a condom and that facials are for marriage. Facials? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/53 "2014-08-21T01:14:06Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > Ok, so you agree that it was not an appropriate response. That’s all I wanted, clarification on your earlier statements. > > Actually I don’t really care about the girls parents, nor do I ‘care’ about her if she was a willing participant. (We don’t know her age from the description, but I doubt that it would be illegal) Teenagers have sex, teenagers often drink…this is not at all unusual. Each set of parents should talk to their own child and since they are minors, they may choose to say that they can’t see each other. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/54 "2014-08-21T01:15:26Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Facials? 😕 That’s when a fellow unloads streamers of hot, sticky semen onto a woman’s face, mouth and parts adjacent. Those promiscuous girls love that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/55 "2014-08-21T01:16:42Z")
> [@simster](#): > > education, discussion - open and honest - but throwing out of the house and everything she might know - not even close. > > Keep in mind that the Watchtower does not discuss anything about sex and sexuality) “open and honestly” - its all hidden, etc. (this is entirely like just about ‘every’ religious group out there, but its the problem - not the solution. > > Do you think throwing her out of the house is going to “stop” the promiscuity? > > Now, if she’s doing tricks in the living room during bible study - and not giving the house it’s cut - yeah - pitch the bitch. Hmmm…are you by chance familiar with the songs of Tom Lehrer? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/56 "2014-08-21T01:18:29Z")
I know two people that have been shunned, both women. On women was a teenager, the daughter of a church elder. She was molested, not quite raped but close, by another church elder. When she brought complaints to the other church elders she was forced out of the church. I know another women who was shunned when her husband committed suicide. Somehow she and here two pre-teen daughters were at fault. Fucking shameful if you ask me. Anyway, I can get behind this pitting as shunning is a fucking destructive, very un-Christian practice in my NSHO. Only one step up from honor killings. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/57 "2014-08-21T01:19:57Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > That’s when a fellow unloads streamers of hot, sticky semen onto a woman’s face, mouth and parts adjacent. > > Those promiscuous girls love that stuff. They’re welcome to it. I can picture that. It’s gross. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/58 "2014-08-21T01:26:46Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > They’re welcome to it. I can picture that. It’s gross. Not nearly as gross as the bullshit religion you follow, and all the unnecessary human pain it causes. Your God’s not real, so all that pain is simply for nothing. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/59 "2014-08-21T01:47:10Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Not nearly as gross as the bullshit religion you follow, and all the unnecessary human pain it causes. > > Your God’s not real, so all that pain is simply for nothing. And a happy Halloween to you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/60 "2014-08-21T01:48:54Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > I know two people that have been shunned, both women. On women was a teenager, the daughter of a church elder. She was molested, not quite raped but close, by another church elder. When she brought complaints to the other church elders she was forced out of the church. > > I know another women who was shunned when her husband committed suicide. Somehow she and here two pre-teen daughters were at fault. Fucking shameful if you ask me. > > Anyway, I can get behind this pitting as shunning is a fucking destructive, very un-Christian practice in my NSHO. Only one step up from honor killings. What is NSHO? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993.md?page=4)