# Dougie\_monty is an immoral cultist

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 20, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993 "2014-08-20T13:31:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/161 "2014-08-22T13:11:26Z")

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[QUOTE=dougie\_monty]  
I think you tried to read the post wrong. Maybe I should have phrased it, for example, “I have read matter ranging from Ralph Ellison to Asimov to Brunvand.” I did indeed read Ellison ’ s entire book–in a college course, as I already said. As a junior in high school, in spring 1966, I read Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck–in one evening.  
The more current authors whose books I have are Brunvand and David Feldman. I have countless tomes bought in places such as Barnes & Noble.  
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Oooooh, Barnes & Noble! That’s hard core! How about Amazon? I hear they’re \*really \*cutting edge!

OK, here is what you said before:

> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I have made it clear that nobody has ever inhibited my choice of reading material. There is no Thought Police restricting my reading or research; I have read matter from \* The Invisible Man \* by Ralph Ellison, to Archie Comic Digests, to \* Mad \*. And I have read the Bible (I have several versions) five times.

You thought Archie comics and Mad Magazine were worth mentioning over Asimov and Brunvand. You were pretty specific with your \*range \*of reading matter here. How did I read it wrong?

Are you seriously proud of the fact that you read Steinbeck 48 years ago? We’re trying to pull you forward to the present day. Brunvand is a folklorist who writes about urban legends, and David Feldman is a comedy writer. Not exactly synonymous with current events, but it’s a start I guess.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/162 "2014-08-22T13:47:18Z")

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Oh, if only God paid as much attention to dougie as we’re doing.

Or, y’know, existed.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/163 "2014-08-22T14:05:13Z")

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Anyone who says “countless tomes” unironically is a person who clearly demonstrates they do not “get” the concept or utility of books.

Unless they live in Innsmouth.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/164 "2014-08-22T14:30:40Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> My wife told me she developed a fool proof method to getting rid of an annoyingly persistent guy flirting with her, she would tell them she was a Jehovah’s Witness. Said it worked like a charm lol.

[Shrug] To each his own. I might try that too. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/165 "2014-08-22T14:32:30Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Anyone who says “countless tomes” unironically is a person who clearly demonstrates they do not “get” the concept or utility of books.
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> Unless they live in Innsmouth.

- Whose \* mouth?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/166 "2014-08-22T14:37:14Z")

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Is Aldebaran over the horizon? If I speak the Unspeakable Name, will he come and eat this thread?

Ohpleaseohplease?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/167 "2014-08-22T14:38:31Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> - Whose \* mouth?

[![](https://media.giphy.com/media/6aAympRF0nU52/giphy.gif) ](https://media.giphy.com/media/6aAympRF0nU52/giphy.gif)

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/168 "2014-08-22T14:42:07Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Oooooh, Barnes & Noble! That’s hard core! How about Amazon? I hear they’re \*really \*cutting edge!
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> OK, here is what you said before:
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> You thought Archie comics and Mad Magazine were worth mentioning over Asimov and Brunvand. You were pretty specific with your \*range \*of reading matter here. How did I read it wrong?
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> Are you seriously proud of the fact that you read Steinbeck 48 years ago? We’re trying to pull you forward to the present day. Brunvand is a folklorist who writes about urban legends, and David Feldman is a comedy writer. Not exactly synonymous with current events, but it’s a start I guess.

Novels are not, and never have been, my cup of tea, although my Mom is an avid reader of them. I have other books of nonfiction, which is what I meant by “countless tomes.” About half are by contemporary authors, including Cecil Adams.  
(In a college course–not the one mentioned earlier–I scored 100 on an exam on the literature section, to my delight and surprise. I commented to the professor that I hadn’t expected this, and he said, "Well, maybe you had this ability and didn’t realize it. " :))

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/169 "2014-08-22T14:47:04Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Is Aldebaran over the horizon? If I speak the Unspeakable Name, will he come and eat this thread?
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> Ohpleaseohplease?

Aldebaran is a giant red star!! :eek:

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/170 "2014-08-22T14:50:19Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> [Joe Biden Smile GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY](http://media.giphy.com/media/6aAympRF0nU52/giphy.gif)

Forgive me, but I don’t recognize that grinning guy offhand (I never see that face on the TV news or in the newspaper). Who is he?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/171 "2014-08-22T15:01:00Z")

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Now you’re just funning us.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/172 "2014-08-22T15:01:50Z")

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I thought JWs weren’t allowed to drink tea.

Or dance, whatever.

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**Author:** ![PorchePine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@PorchePine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PorchePine)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/173 "2014-08-22T15:05:15Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> (In a college course–not the one mentioned earlier–I scored 100 on an exam on the literature section, to my delight and surprise. I commented to the professor that I hadn’t expected this, and he said, "Well, maybe you had this ability and didn’t realize it. " :))

Spoken like a man who has never been within a mile of a university’s campus.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/174 "2014-08-22T15:18:05Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I thought JWs weren’t allowed to drink tea.
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> Or dance, whatever.

I read once that people thought Witnesses don’t eat meat, or that they won’t accept blood lest they have two souls in one body!:dubious:

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/175 "2014-08-22T15:19:54Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I read once that people thought Witnesses don’t eat meat, or that **they won’t accept blood lest they have two souls in one body!** :dubious:

The real reason is even more stupid.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/176 "2014-08-22T15:21:28Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Don’t tell me what I didn’t read, Buster. I was assigned that book in a college middle -level literature course; our final exam was to write a composition on the novel ( I got an A for the final and the course). The other examples were given to show the range of my reading; I also have books by authors such as Isaac Asimov and Jan Harold Brunvand.
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> Once again, don’t tell me what I didn’t read. If you do I will report the post and I may talk to my lawyer.

JW’s do not believe in higher education. After all, the end days are coming soon (for the past 100+ years) and you don’t need college to be riding unicorns and farting rainbows.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/177 "2014-08-22T15:24:03Z")

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> [@PorchePine](#):
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> Spoken like a man who has never been within a mile of a university’s campus.

Well, I have–UCLA and USC. You are obviously just expressing your own opinion.

Well, I didn’t attend a university. I attended, and graduated from, El Camino Community College in Torrance, CA, in the Class of 1986. I had taken classes as far back as 1968, the year after I graduated from high school.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/178 "2014-08-22T15:25:49Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The real reason is even more stupid.

Guess what I think of you for that back talk. :mad:

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/179 "2014-08-22T15:27:51Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> JW’s do not believe in higher education. After all, the end days are coming soon (for the past 100+ years) and you don’t need college to be riding unicorns and farting rainbows.

Glad to meet you, Dorothy Parker–I thought you died more than 40 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dougie_monty-is-an-immoral-cultist/695993/180 "2014-08-22T15:29:41Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Novels are not, and never have been, my cup of tea, although my Mom is an avid reader of them. I have other books of nonfiction, which is what I meant by “countless tomes.” About half are by contemporary authors, including Cecil Adams.  
> (In a college course–not the one mentioned earlier–I scored 100 on an exam on the literature section, to my delight and surprise. I commented to the professor that I hadn’t expected this, and he said, "Well, maybe you had this ability and didn’t realize it. " :))

Good for your mom. Maybe she knows what facials and selfies are.

In case you haven’t noticed, just about everyone in the SDMB went to college too. A lot of them even graduated. A good number have post-graduate degrees as well. None of them are likely to be impressed by your accolades of getting 100 on an exam over 40 years ago. You can be the most educated man in the world, but we’re still going to think you’re an isolated 12-yr old if you keep acting that way.

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