# Down by 8: PAT or 2 Pt Conversion? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 7, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/down-by-8-pat-or-2-pt-conversion/520368 "2009-12-07T21:30:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 59
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/down-by-8-pat-or-2-pt-conversion/520368/59 "2009-12-08T19:32:29Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The second _touchdown_ is much more likely to be scored if that’s the only score you need. This is definitely true. My argument is that this doesn’t make the overall strategy of a PAT on the first TD better. With your strategy, after you take your time, put together a good drive, and score a TD, you still have to make the 2PC. Here is how I see the two scenarios: A. Kick the PAT on the first TD, go for two on the second TD. You need to: - Make the PAT - Get the ball back - Stage a touchdown drive - Make the 2PC B. Go for two on the first TD. You need to: - Make the 2PC - Get the ball back - Stage a touchdown drive - Make the PAT It seems to me that the chances of success are the same in both cases. The advantage I am claiming is that in B, if you miss the 2PC, you have the (very small) chance to successfully rush down the field, flinging passes as you say. This has a small chance of success, but I’m claiming it has a larger chance of success than the similar situation when you fail on the 2PC after the second TD. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/down-by-8-pat-or-2-pt-conversion/520368)._