By now we know that you can say all sorts of stuff; indeed you’re excellent at saying things that even superficially make little sense. What you can say is of very little interest to anyone but your mom, and possibly not even to her. What you can back up with cogent argument and facts? That might be interesting.
You never met my big ol’ Harley ridin’ lesbian aunt Donna.
It’s actually pretty logical to be gay and Republican. If neither party really respects you, might as well vote pocketbook issues.
I’ve been speaking in front of a city council a few times to get them to vote approval for a transgender equality ordinance, and oddly ALL of the council members who are opposed to it are Democrats, save for one Republican. I found it surreal that one of the biggest champions of the equality ordinance is a Southern Baptist Tea Party member.
“Goes to show you never can tell.”
“C’est la vie” say the old folks.
Obviously not a true Tea-Bagger.
Well, speaking as a progressive, I can say that the Democrats will give you jack shit other than lip service on economic policies if they feel they have your vote. The people who hold the power in the Democratic Party are corporatists to the core, because that’s where the money is. That’s why I think progressives need to stop voting Democratic for a time: the Democrat centists DO want our votes, and badly, but do not believe we would actually leave the fold, and since they DON’T believe that, they WON’T change their policies in any way that might ruffle their Wall Street masters.
Therefore, I think the Log Cabin Republicans might be the best friend that gay Democrats have. The prospect of losing wealthy gay donors and gay votes to the Republicans is not appealing … so long as the Democratic leadership fears that gays will bolt to the Republican side they may enact policies that gays favor. The minute they get the feeling that they have gay money and votes no matter what, gays will stop riding in the paying seats and will join progressives underneath the bus.
Your post makes me wonder: If campaigns were publicly financed, how much would Democrats care about gay issues, given what a low percentage of the vote gays provide. Seems to me their interest in the LGBT community is all about the big money donors.
And those in Canada don’t get to demand anything of those of us in America. We’re doing what we think is best in terms of moving LGBT rights forward in this country. If Dr. Drake doesn’t like how we’re doing it, he’s more than welcome to come back and show us how it’s done. But we’re full up on armchair quarterbacks.
As I said above, I’m still a citizen, with all the rights and responsibilities thereto pertaining. Assuming he wins, Brat will serve in a legislative body that represents me. It’s hardly armchair quarterbacking when you’re still a pawn in the game, albeit a benched one.
Well as far as the DLC goes, it’s certainly all about the big money donors. However, most of their base is on board with equality for gays, so Democratic politicians now have everything to gain and very little to lose by supporting gay issues. Wall Street doesn’t really care about gay issues, the only ones who care about gay issues with any great intensity are gays, closeted & self-hating gays, and fundy religious types, and there aren’t enough of the latter two groups in the Democratic voter base to be a problem.
As he said, he’s still legally a US citizen, dude. Deal.
There is a line somewhere between not respecting me and having party members on board with stoning me to death. So long as the Republican party allows the later, they have no chance of getting my vote.
As to the size of the gay voting block and big money donors. Once again it’s not like the Democratic party has to do much to draw a the gay big money donors or our small voting block, all they really need to do is refrain for endorsing gays being killed or imprisoned, something the Republicans can’t manage, and the gay voting block is almost guaranteed.
Well, in power politics, it’s a question of what you can bring to the table. A block of votes? Great. A block of swing votes? Better. Mullah? Oh yeah baby, gimme more. Volunteer GOTV? That will work too. A big reason the Dems are tight with the unions is because of their membership’s volunteer work.
Anyway, if you want to see what happens when elections are publicly financed, *look at a country where elections are publicly financed. * Like, say, Europe, which has generally speaking has strong gay civil rights protections.
Surprised, but not quite gobsmacked. I advocate voting the straight Democratic party line for all Washington office holders until the adults retake control of the Republican party. State is another matter. As for localities, even I would be comfortable voting for a member of either party.
But just to get this straight all of the Republicans except one are for it? And the Dems opposed? What are they all thinking? 
Okay. Fine. I’ll start with some things I’ve learned from “progressives”.
If a liberal calls you an Uncle Tom, they’re not being mean. It’s because you probably are one.
…Or telling her you’re going to send her back to wherever she came from.
Should I keep going?
Some liberals on the internet make dubious claims. Check. I didn’t even have to click the links. Sheesh, OMG, is that it? Or do you have some deeper point?
As an aside, I don’t wish to pry into OMG’s private concerns. But in the past he hasn’t answered my question about whether someone walking down the street would ID him as black. That’s ok. But it reiterates the general rule not to take indirect claims at face value on the internet. Not that I have ever been especially astounded by the notion of a conservative black.
No, please continue! Watching you blatantly distort your own cites never gets old.
Too bad it isn’t just “on the internet” (this is why you should click links). As it is, hand wave away. That’s all you guys and gals ever do, anyway.
One, I’ve never seen you ask that question before. Two, that’s a dumb question.
Uh-huh. Right. Is that all you have? 'Cuz simply ignoring that which you don’t like doesn’t mean those things don’t exist.
If you keep going, perhaps you might take a little detour to explain what point you believe you’re supporting with this evidence. If your point is that there are some jerks who are progressive, then sure, you’ve made your point, but be aware that you’re impinging on Captain Obvious’s trademark.
If, however, your point is that the Democratic Party coddles racists and misogynists to the same degree that the Republican Party does, then by all means keep going. This time, though, give some cites that don’t go back to cranks: rather, we’re looking for evidence that some major Democratic organization or convention or whatever pays people to spout ugly vitriol in the same way that folks like the RNC does.
Complaints about racism and sexism and homophobia in the Republican party aren’t complaints about blogger idiots: they’re complaints about veep candidates, other candidates for federal office, and top-billed commentators paid to speak at conventions.
Tu quoque fail.
Anyway, my two cents: I’m not gay, but I don’t approve of attempts to cast them as second-class citizens the way the GOP does. I’m watching even if I’m not directly affected.
I’m not black either. Or Hispanic. Or female. Or poor. But I don’t appreciate any of these groups being turned into scapegoats or presented as somehow second-best. I’m watching, and I’m not going to accept it.
As for Brat, I can give him his mulligan for a bad interview right after winning a race he probably didn’t expect to win. If he is a real economist and wants to talk about the minimum wage in the context of productivity growth, he’d have to acknowledge that, if the minimum wage had kept up with gains in productivity over the decades, today it would be something like $22/hr. If he is going to be in the national GOP, he is going to have to stop being real immediately (something he seems to understand already or he might have answered a question) and get used to spouting either mainstream bullshit talking points or Tea Party bullshit talking points. Data won’t do.
ETA: I’d like at least one more party to vote for too.