# Downton Abbey - Daisy and William (SPOILERS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 23, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546 "2013-09-23T21:54:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/41 "2013-10-16T10:24:56Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Well… part of suspending disbelief in a work of fiction is inferring a wider reality to the depicted world, realistically-ongoing lives for the characters. We kind of _have to_ assume that a lot goes on that we don’t see, but we trust the show to take us to the good bits. Certainly important things ‘happen’ off-screen in DA–but we’re told about them, one way or another. That’s my point. If something this specific and significant happened, someway the audience would know. Otherwise, what’s the point? This OP has an extreme fixation on the sex life of the character/actress (see the pregnancy thread) and seems to be conflating wishful thinking and delusion. ---
**Author:** ![TashaKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TashaKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TashaKitty)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/42 "2013-10-16T18:29:00Z")
Daisy didn’t have sex with William but I’m pretty sure she had sex with everybody else. Bates, Branson, Mrs. Patmore, Anna, Lord Grantham, Lady Grantham, Mary, Edith, Sybil, Molesley, Carson, O’Brien, Mrs. Hughes, Dr. Clarkson, Matthew, Isobel, Violet, Pharaoh, and Isis. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/43 "2013-10-16T18:50:36Z")
> [@TashaKitty](#): > > Daisy didn’t have sex with William but I’m pretty sure she had sex with everybody else. Bates, Branson, Mrs. Patmore, Anna, Lord Grantham, Lady Grantham, Mary, Edith, Sybil, Molesley, Carson, O’Brien, Mrs. Hughes, Dr. Clarkson, Matthew, Isobel, Violet, Pharaoh, and Isis. Surely not _Molesley_!!! 😃 StG ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/44 "2013-10-16T18:57:29Z")
> [@TashaKitty](#): > > Daisy didn’t have sex with William but I’m pretty sure she had sex with … Pharaoh, and Isis. The _dogs_ ?! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/45 "2013-10-16T19:34:44Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > The _dogs_ ?! :eek: Maybe not sex, perhaps it was just heavy petting. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/46 "2013-10-16T20:26:35Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Definitey. Like so many of those WW1 soldiers William died in pain, for no good reason, hopelessly naive, and a virgin. In all seriousness, this was actually part of the story told in the film _[Mrs Henderson Presents](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs_Henderson_Presents)_, about the [Windmill Theatre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windmill_Theatre) in London during the Second World War. The show featured nude women in non-moving poses. At one point in the movie, Mrs Henderson argues that the show is perhaps the only chance some of the soldiers might have to see a nude woman before they die in the war. (Actually I think she also mentioned that her son died in the First World War still a virgin.) ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/47 "2013-10-16T21:04:25Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Maybe not sex, perhaps it was just heavy petting. Very nice! ---
**Author:** ![TashaKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TashaKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TashaKitty)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/48 "2013-10-17T02:28:22Z")
Heavy petting! Lol!!! ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/49 "2013-10-17T06:39:59Z")
In scullery terms, I think they just got to second baste. ---
**Author:** ![Claire98909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Claire98909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire98909)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/50 "2013-10-18T03:23:56Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > In scullery terms, I think they just got to second baste. With William? ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/51 "2013-10-18T09:27:17Z")
Well, I don’t think Mrs Patmore was game. ---
**Author:** ![Claire98909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Claire98909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire98909)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/52 "2013-10-25T02:35:49Z")
But you think she and William engaged in making out and fondling one another? ---
**Author:** ![Claire98909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Claire98909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire98909)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/53 "2013-10-25T02:42:39Z")
A couple more questions: 1. What exactly do you think was Daisy’s reply to William’s “does this mean you’ll be my girl?” Because obviously she didn’t say no. And WHY didn’t she just say no? 2. What do you suppose they did after that scene? Just go to bed separately? Make out? Hanky panky? ---
**Author:** ![Claire98909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Claire98909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire98909)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/54 "2013-11-01T23:20:42Z")
But what if, after the wedding, William had felt that consummating the marriage was important - would Daisy have been pressured into doing it with him? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/55 "2013-11-02T01:26:50Z")
**Claire98909** , you need to find another subject to talk about. This "was Daisy sexually abused? thing has been the only subject you’ve talked about for the last couple of weeks and it’s too much. Consider broadening your interests. ---
**Author:** ![Claire98909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Claire98909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire98909)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/56 "2013-11-09T02:10:51Z")
Do you guys think that William and Daisy might have done the hanky panky the night that he proposed to her or the night that he and Matthew returned from being missing, or do you think that Daisy probably avoided him like the plague just in case he tried to make a move? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546/57 "2013-11-09T14:54:51Z")
We’ve told you to stop posting about William and Daisy. We meant it. I have given you a warning for obsessive posting on one topic – consider it a twofer, with failure to follow a moderator’s instructions. I am also closing this thread, to remove the temptation for you. **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-daisy-and-william-spoilers/669546.md?page=2)