# Downton Abbey movie coming in 2019

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**Created:** [July 14, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896 "2018-07-14T14:30:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/21 "2018-07-20T00:23:53Z")

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Also, I get the impression that the Crawleys were _way_ more familiar with the lives of their servants than most aristocrats were.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/22 "2018-07-20T13:06:43Z")

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I’ve been watching too many other British shows and so I keep expecting it to be revealed that Molesley was a serial killer all along. He does a really good job at that.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/23 "2018-07-20T15:10:35Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Also, I get the impression that the Crawleys were _way_ more familiar with the lives of their servants than most aristocrats were.

Quite right, I don’t think the typical upper class were all giant assholish monsters, but I think the vast vast majority observed the expected and strict rules of the employer/servant relationship. The servants weren’t family and various violations of social norms of the day wouldn’t have been openly tolerated the way they were almost every week on Downton Abbey.

Is it possible some odd upper class Brits of the era were extremely warm/caring to the point they all but included their servants as part of their own family? I’m sure it probably happened, but I think it would have been very much the exception to the rule.

Julian Fellowes didn’t want the Crawleys to be the heels of the show so I think he took some artistic license there. The way he portrays many of the other noble families they interact with, and how those families interact with their staff–is almost certainly how you’d normally expect British nobility of the time to treat staff.

There’s another forum I post on where I was discussing Downton years ago and one of the posters there had a grandfather who had been a butler serving a wealthy British landowner, from the period of like 1920-mid 1950s. He actually brought up Carlson having palsy at the end of the series because _his_ grandfather actually developed a somewhat similar medical and there was no gracious retirement. When he was unable to work the family that had employed him for decades sent him packing and that was that.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/24 "2018-07-21T11:50:39Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> An aristocratic family also wouldn’t retain a servant they knew to be homosexual, but Downton Abbey blew past that inconvenient fact ages ago.

Well, yes. But that also means that the question of appropriate roles for servants goes out the window. If it were real life, Lord Grantham would have the reputation as a homosexual with Irish radical sympathies who employs murderers.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/25 "2018-12-17T16:11:38Z")

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Here’s the house decorated for Christmas, and the teaser trailer for the movie:

> **[The ‘Downton Abbey' castle is decked out for the holidays](https://www.aol.com/article/lifestyle/2018/12/17/the-downton-abbey-castle-is-decked-out-for-the-holidays/23620418/)**
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> The 'Downton Abbey' castle has been decorated for the holidays, and it looks like a real-life Christmas special.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TYnITeDfaA4/maxresdefault.jpg "DOWNTON ABBEY | Official Teaser Trailer | In Theaters September 20") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYnITeDfaA4)

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/26 "2018-12-17T21:45:44Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> Liberally interspersed with scenes of
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> -Scandals that should make the Crawleys social pariahs, yet don’t  
> -blackmail, blackmail, blackmail!  
> -Branson dithering about how he fits in  
> -Carson harrumphing  
> -mentions of poor Mr. Pamuk
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> and bingo, there’s your Downton Abbey: The Motion Picture.

You forgot “Withering looks and utterances of disdain by the Dowager Countess Violet” You can’t have Downton Abbey without that.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/27 "2018-12-18T02:52:22Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Can’t imagine they won’t use the opportunity for a childbirth scene, preferably one that doesn’t end in tragedy. Hopefully Bertie won’t go for a drive shortly after Edith delivers.

LOL, good point!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/28 "2018-12-18T03:59:19Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Servants didn’t marry and stay in service

Just dotting the i here: of course I know you specifically meant **female** servants. A male chauffeur or gardener, say, who married one of the maids would routinely stay on. But the couple would live in one of the estate cottages or some other housing rather than in the dorm-like servants’ quarters under the employer’s roof. (A married butler-housekeeper couple might both remain in office, and this configuration evolved into the much more common butler-cook couple of the smaller post-Edwardian urban households.)

Also, even a married ex-maid might be re-hired as a non-resident servant on a temporary or part-time basis as the needs of the house required; e.g., for a particular ball or houseparty, or for periodic visits as a laundress or child’s nurse.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/29 "2018-12-18T04:21:29Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> An aristocratic family also wouldn’t retain a servant they knew to be homosexual, but Downton Abbey blew past that inconvenient fact ages ago.

Meh, the British artistocracy had no issue with homosexuality, as long as it was discreet and not forcing themselves on others, younger people.  
It was the middle classes who would have acted on that fashion.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/30 "2018-12-18T16:45:12Z")

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Yay.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/31 "2018-12-18T18:07:08Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> Yay.

For homosexuality or Downton?😉  
Or a Downton with homosexuality?

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/32 "2018-12-18T19:29:23Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> For homosexuality or Downton?😉  
> Or a Downton with homosexuality?

Both I suppose. I loved to hate Thomas. I hope he’s still at least a little bit of a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/33 "2019-05-21T16:12:40Z")

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Bumped.

Here’s the new trailer, and the Wiki article on the movie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downton\_Abbey\_(film)

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/34 "2019-05-21T21:17:47Z")

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Well, if nothing else, it’s certainly going to _look_ gorgeous. The trailer is going full-tilt on nostalgia and warm fuzzies; hopefully the film itself will have a little more grit and drama to it.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/35 "2019-05-22T06:06:45Z")

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The US trailer is the one I was reacting to; it’s different to the Australian one in EH’s post. Definitely lighter on plot. Here it is: [DOWNTON ABBEY | Official Trailer | In Theaters September 20 - YouTube](https://youtu.be/tu3mP0c51hE)

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/36 "2019-05-22T06:30:25Z")

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I’d like to see this, for closure and because I loyally watched throughout the series, even when it meandered a bit, but I’m not going into a cinema to do it. Bugger that for a game of soldiers. I honestly don’t understand the whole “big screen” thing so many clamour for. What an unnecessary kerfuffle for so little benefit.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/37 "2019-05-22T07:10:20Z")

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Interesting factoid: Maggie Smith said\* she’s never watched herself as the Dowager, and didn’t give the impression of rating the programme all that much.

\*In the documentary  
[Nothing Like A Dame](https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/apr/27/nothing-like-a-dame-judi-dench-maggie-smith-eileen-atkins-joan-plowright) - fascinating (especially for Judi Dench describing her reaction to a particularly patronising nurse).

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/38 "2019-05-22T21:59:43Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Bumped.
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> Here’s the new trailer, and the Wiki article on the movie:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downton\_Abbey\_(film)

One minute, 43 seconds; Thomas is dancing with another man. 😃

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/39 "2019-05-23T14:15:47Z")

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By the way, as a follow-up to Downton Abbey, in 2015 Julian Fellowes announced plans to make a series for NBC about New York City in the 1880s to be called [The Gilded Age](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gilded_Age_(TV_series)). The show is still moving forward but earlier this month it moved to HBO.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/downton-abbey-movie-coming-in-2019/817896/40 "2019-05-23T15:45:42Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> For homosexuality or Downton?😉  
> Or a Downton with homosexuality?

Just noticed this got bumped and there was a reply.

Yay there is going to be more Downton. That is all.

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