# Dozens injured in Waukesha, WI at Christmas parade: Nov 2021 \[update: 6 dead, over 40 injured\]\[update: trial\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 22, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746 "2021-11-22T00:38:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/262 "2022-11-01T12:24:43Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Today, the judge was much quicker to cut him off and not let him disrupt the procedures. The trial portion is over, she doesn’t need to put up with as much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/263 "2022-11-01T12:31:15Z")
Exactly. Very no-nonsense. She’s really got good control of herself. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/264 "2022-11-01T14:22:28Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > The trial portion is over, she doesn’t need to put up with as much anymore. He’s going to release all that pent up energy on the judge for his appeal. The judge for that case has some big shoes to fill. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/265 "2022-11-01T15:00:19Z")
I don’t know if the judge will allow him to get a lawyer for appeal or if he will ask for one. Either way, I suspect his appeal isn’t going to work and may just get tossed. If he tries himself, it’s just going to be Sov Cit ramblings. Even with an attorney, the prosecution did a fantastic job and the judge was very careful. There’s not much to appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/266 "2022-11-01T16:18:07Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > There’s not much to appeal. The flag in the courtroom was totally lacking a fringe? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/267 "2022-11-01T16:20:24Z")
The defendant here is the _last_ person who should be complaining about fringe. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/268 "2022-11-17T15:43:37Z")
> **[Darrell Brooks receives 6 consecutive life sentences plus more than 700...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/us/darrell-brooks-waukesha-sentencing/index.html)** > > Darrell Brooks was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of extended supervision Wednesday for driving his SUV into a crowd of Christmas parade attendees in Waukesha, Wisconsin, last year, killing six people and wounding dozens. i don’t believe i’ve ever heard of someone getting over 700 years in a sentence. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/269 "2022-11-17T15:53:15Z")
Oh, there’s competition: [https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/5-longest-prison-sentences-in-us-history/](https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/5-longest-prison-sentences-in-us-history/) My favorite line: > "McLaurin’s original sentence of 21,250 years was reduced by 500 years on appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/270 "2022-11-17T16:05:28Z")
Brooks did attempt to argue that his time served should offset one year of the sentence. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/271 "2022-11-17T16:08:51Z")
i sit corrected. that is some reduction there. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/272 "2022-11-17T16:11:45Z")
Yes, 20,750 years is much more tolerable. 🙂 Wonder if anyone ever wrote a sci-fi story about some breakthrough in human lifespan expansion which accounts for such criminals getting out after thousands of years. Or something with that general thought nugget. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/273 "2022-11-17T16:14:43Z")
i picture a coffin or urn in a little cell, carrying out the remainder of the sentence. hhhmm, maybe stuffed or frozen in a tank… ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/274 "2022-11-17T16:14:46Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Or something with that general thought nugget. Barry Sadler could have done that with Casca. > **[Casca (series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casca_(series))** > > Casca is a series of historical fantasy novels created by author Barry Sadler in 1979. The stories revolve around the exploits of Casca Rufio Longinus, the Roman legionary who drove the Holy Lance into the side of Jesus Christ on Golgotha. As a result of this action, Casca is cursed with immortality, and he is to wander the Earth aimlessly, always as a soldier, until the Second Coming. The character is loosely based on the Longinus legend of Christianity. > Sadler wrote some of the early novels in... ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/275 "2022-11-17T18:09:00Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Wonder if anyone ever wrote a sci-fi story about some breakthrough in human lifespan expansion which accounts for such criminals getting out after thousands of years. Or something with that general thought nugget. Tangentially related, but in The Good Place they learned that one of the reasons Michael had problems understanding ethics and morality was because he was immortal. He could do something objectively bad and, given enough time, no one cares. As long as he can live forever, there really aren’t any consequences. Who cares if you’re in jail for 20,000 years if you’re already 13 billion years old. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/276 "2022-11-17T18:56:33Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Wonder if anyone ever wrote a sci-fi story about some breakthrough in human lifespan expansion which accounts for such criminals getting out after thousands of years. Or something with that general thought nugget. I read a bit of Tumblr fiction just the other day that played off this theme, but in a fantasy setting. A terrible monster is bound in the palace dungeons for a thousand years. 999 years later, nobody remembers why the monster was bound down there, but they know the spell’s about to wear off. No idea how to find it again, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/277 "2022-11-17T20:32:09Z")
I remember reading a short story about someone who was sentenced to some incredibly long time in prison, but the prison was a virtual one in his mind. He experienced his complete sentence (to him, it felt like however long it was supposed to be), but it was only a few seconds or minutes long in real time. Paging @Andy_L, does this sound familiar to you? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/278 "2022-11-17T20:48:48Z")
This almost sounds like an episode of Black Mirror. I haven’t watched it in years, but something like it sounds familiar. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/279 "2022-11-17T20:50:46Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > This almost sounds like an episode of Black Mirror. I’ve only ever seen [one episode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Christmas_(Black_Mirror)) of _Black Mirror_, and it was this plot exactly. Also showed up in an episode of _Deep Space 9_. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/280 "2022-11-17T20:51:02Z")
“The House of If” by Barry Longyear, if the guy was an escape expert. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/281 "2022-11-17T21:36:22Z")
Also the exact plot of an Outer Limits episode, “The Sentence.” > **[The Sentence](https://theouterlimits.fandom.com/wiki/The_Sentence)** > > Dr. Jack Henson (David Hyde Pierce) creates a Virtual Prison — an environment in which convicts experience a life sentence in a harsh regime in just a few hours of real time. “Crime and punishment... an age-old dilemma. Man has long sought a solution... > In a near future plagued by prison overcrowding, Dr. Henson presents his new invention—a virtual prison where a subject’s feelings of guilt literally convict them by subjecting them to a lifetime of imprisonment in a matter of minutes [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746.md?page=15)