# Dozens injured in Waukesha, WI at Christmas parade: Nov 2021 \[update: 6 dead, over 40 injured\]\[update: trial\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 22, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746 "2021-11-22T00:38:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/142 "2021-11-24T15:29:45Z")
I’ve a hunch that maybe there were one or two specific people in the parade that he had some sort of grudge against, and was aiming for them, and considered all of the other people he was hitting irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/143 "2021-11-24T16:09:26Z")
The difference in these two men and their outlook on life is so unsettling. > **[A man allowed the Wisconsin crash suspect into his home after the deadly...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/darrell-brooks-waukesha-wisconsin-holiday-parade-daniel-rider/#app)** > > A Wisconsin resident who allowed Darrell Brooks into his home said he was shocked when he discovered who he had helped. > [@](#): > > Brooks looked thin and cold, Rider said. He lent Brooks his jacket and phone and made him a sandwich. Brooks sat on his couch the entire time, he said, and made several phone calls to his mother while waiting for an Uber to pick him up. > > “He was so polite. He was nice to me. He listened to everything I told him to do. Now, knowing what he just did moments before that, it’s hard to even wrap your head around,” Rider said. > > According to Rider, Brooks even asked him if he knew what was going on downtown where Brooks was accused of killing five and wounding 62 others. But Rider had been tuned into the football game and Brooks had his phone, which was receiving alerts to shelter in place. “I had no idea anything was happening,” Rider said. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/144 "2021-11-24T18:28:20Z")
Piggybacking on that … > **[NFL star JJ Watt to pay for funerals of Waukesha parade victims](https://nypost.com/2021/11/24/nfls-jj-watt-to-pay-for-funerals-of-waukesha-parade-victims/)** > > The Arizona Cardinals defensive end and Waukesha native made the announcement through local media this week. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/145 "2021-11-24T20:37:08Z")
That man really put his life into his hands by letting him into his house, even though he didn’t know what the guy had done. Back in the day, my mother grew up in a house near a railroad track, and men who rode the rails would sometimes stop at their house and ask for food. Grandma would make eggs, toast, and coffee, and bacon if they had any to spare, and offer them a cigarette, but she would never, ever let them into the house, even if Grandpa and her brothers were there. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/146 "2021-11-24T20:58:43Z")
I really hope Waukesha continues the Christmas parade. Maybe have a special 2022 float for the survivors and tribute for the victims. I linked earlier to the Oklahoma State University Homecoming parade tragedy in 2015. They have carried on the tradition. Probably with increased security. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/147 "2021-11-25T02:42:06Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’ve had to call criminals sir and ma’am for the last 20 something years. You get used to it. Only before conviction? Or after too? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/148 "2021-11-25T02:48:19Z")
A lot of them are between convictions. I get a lot of return customers. They must like the service. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/149 "2021-12-02T03:11:21Z")
Well, yeah… > **[Suspect in Waukesha parade carnage says he feels 'demonized'](https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-milwaukee-bc1a8c1291ef9e7bcef168da0ec3abb0)** > > MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The man accused of driving his SUV through a Christmas parade in suburban Milwaukee, killing six people and injuring dozens , said Wednesday that he feels like he's being “demonized.” ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/150 "2021-12-02T03:39:25Z")
Boo hoo. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/151 "2021-12-02T05:22:05Z")
In a class move, football player J. J. Watt of the Arizona Cardinals has offered to pay for the funerals of all six victims. > **[Cardinals’ JJ Watt offers to pay for funerals of Waukesha Christmas parade...](https://www.wcia.com/news/cardinals-jj-watt-offers-to-pay-for-funerals-of-waukesha-christmas-parade-victims/amp/)** > > PHOENIX, Az. (WTVO) — Arizona Cardinals’ J.J. Watt, a native of Waukesha, Wisconsin, has offered to pay the funeral costs for victims of the Christmas parade tragedy. Six people were ki… Watt is a native of Waukesha. Good for you, sir! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/152 "2021-12-02T15:41:20Z")
The suspect makes a statement: > **[In first interview from jail, suspect accused of killing 6 in Wisconsin...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/02/darrell-brooks-interview-demonized-wisconsin-parade/)** > > Darrell Brooks Jr., 39, spoke briefly on Wednesday with two Fox News Digital reporters. > On Wednesday, Brooks broke his silence. > > “I just feel like I’m being [made out to be a] monster – demonized” and “dehumanized,” he told Fox News Digital… (This pretty much confirms that he’s mentally ill; if he were rational you’d expect him to stick to claiming innocence (sincerely or otherwise) rather than making statements that seem designed to disgust and enrage people.) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/153 "2021-12-02T17:33:50Z")
Perhaps he’s accurate, and the assessment is accurate. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/154 "2021-12-02T17:40:30Z")
It’s pretty consistent with being a sociopathic narcissist (a psychopath) to focus on how it is affecting **him**. “Just because of this _one_ thing that happened to some people, everyone is being so _mean_ to me.” ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/155 "2021-12-02T17:56:05Z")
Too late to ETA: His mother has released a letter saying he was treated for mental illness as he was growing up, but after he became an adult, he no longer was considered to be mentally ill(? I’m paraphrasing, and that’s how I understand it.). > **['He was not given the help and resources he needed,' family of Darrell Brooks...](https://www.cbs58.com/news/we-believe-what-has-happened-is-because-he-was-not-given-the-help-and-resources-he-needed-family-of-darrell-brooks-writes-in-letter-to-the-media)** > > MILWAUKEE (CBS 58) --In a letter to the media Wednesday morning, Dec. 1, the family of Darrell Brooks, the man accused of killing six people in the Waukesha Holiday Parade attack, is expressing their co ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/156 "2021-12-02T23:31:47Z")
His family is right about the mental health system being broken. All the cuts the government made to the social safety net since the Reagan Era need to be reversed. And that’s just for a good start. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/157 "2021-12-02T23:34:37Z")
It’s also much much harder to commit or treat a person against their will than it was 50 years or so ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/158 "2021-12-02T23:37:30Z")
Just call the cops and let them shoot the person in crisis. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/159 "2021-12-03T00:00:25Z")
That’s the mental health system here in AZ. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/160 "2021-12-03T02:13:27Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#): > > His family is right about the mental health system being broken. All the cuts the government made to the social safety net since the Reagan Era need to be reversed. This, but we have to do it right this time. > [@eschrodinger](#): > > It’s also much much harder to commit or treat a person against their will than it was 50 years or so ago. We can’t go back to the era of Cuckoo’s Nest mental hospitals. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dozens-injured-in-waukesha-wi-at-christmas-parade-nov-2021-update-6-dead-over-40-injured-update-trial/954746/161 "2021-12-04T02:15:25Z")
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